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03/06/2013 at 12:02
Without going into too much detail H has been a victim of major ID fraud which has gone international. We think they got his details from HMRC as they had his VAT number. As he has had no 'crime' or 'loss' against him commited against him the police aren't interested. He is able to register it on actionfraud, but that is really just for statistical purposes. The people who have had a crime commited against them are those who have lost thousands of pounds
Anyway, it got me thinking about how easy it is to get details of you online. One that I have been looking at is 192.com. Quite quickly you can get our name and address up there. I have said to my H we should go on the edited list. So the 2 would not be linked as easily. He has said that if we went on that list it would effect us if we were having credit checks made against us. i.e. we wouldn't be traced to this address. Saying we are not registered at an address. Anybody in the know?
03/06/2013 at 12:12
I don't think that it should affect your ability to have credit checks etc. The edited ER is the version used for marketing etc which is why 192.com can get hold of it. But the ER has to hold the details of everybody registered to vote, regardless of their marketing preference. A credit check isn't related to marketing so the credit agency should have access to the full list for the purpose of running that check only. In fact, checking wikipedia.....
"The full version of the register is available for supervised inspection by anyone, by legal right. It is this register that is used for voting and its supply and use is limited by law. Copies of this register are available to certain groups and individuals, such as credit reference agencies and political parties".
So there you go. Going on the edited list will only stop marketers getting hold of your personal data - but by not letting them use your details, it also stops those details getting out into the world in general, iykwim? If you're on the edited list, your data can only be used for official purposes, which keeps it a bit safer.
Hope that helps!
03/06/2013 at 12:15
Thanks. That is what I thought too
03/06/2013 at 12:25
Penny is right, we are on Edited lists for various reasons x
03/06/2013 at 12:31
Yep we are on edited version too and no problems with credit checks etc.
03/06/2013 at 12:33
Thanks all. I have just tried calling my local authority....that department must be on lunch as they are not answering the phone. I know it won't stop what has happened to my H as they got his details elsewhere.
03/06/2013 at 12:56
After contacting them we are onthe opt out register already. However, our details of both name and address are showing on 192.com. This is apparently because when we first registered when we moved to the address we didn't opt out so they have kept my details. There is apparently a foem on 192.com that you can fill out so people cannot see all of your details. I can't find that form so I have just emailed them to help me.
03/06/2013 at 13:47
We are on the edited version, but like you we didn't opt out immediately. After getting nowhere with several nice telephone calls I sent them a really shirty email completely blaming them and told them that they were in breach of the data protection act and that I would be starting legal proceedings. Our details were quickly removed after that.
03/06/2013 at 14:01
Ha ha! I don't mean to be rude to anyone who's done that, quoted the data protection act at a data company, but it does make us laugh. It's like quoting the law at the police. There is often a period of time during which the company has to opt you out after your request but it's not always immediate - you often have to wait for updates to files (like the ER) etc before any changes come into effect. People never seem to realise that things can't just happen overnight. Plus, if your only objection is marketing, not fraud, if you don't want a mailing that's come through the door - just chuck it in the recycling!
Aaanyway, sorry, rant over - I've got 9.5 more days at my horrible data job and then I no longer have to worry about this stuff, but today, it's annoying me, can you tell??
(PS Your question didn't annoy me Mossy, it's data in general and my soon to be ex-Boss that are winding me up today......).
03/06/2013 at 15:18
My husband is a data anyalyst and he quotes the data protection act to every single company that steps out of line with our data. It's his favourite fallback. He was also a special constable and enjoys quoting the law to police offiicers too, especially when they try to bend the truth. But then he enjoys his job and enjoys making people squirm even more
Hope your 9.5 days fly by Penny and that your soon to be ex-boss is soon a distant memory!
03/06/2013 at 15:56
Figaro - my H is in data too (it's how we met) so I'm guessing we occassionally have the same exciting data-related conversations over dinner.......!
Angry complaint letters rarely make us squirm. Usually they just make us laugh. But, you need to find your own fun in this industry cos it's pretty damn boring otherwise. The complaints are always dealt with professionally and the relevant actions taken, but you do have to laugh at some people's letters.
03/06/2013 at 16:13
Oh yes, plenty of exciting conversations re: data. My current favourite is hearing all about supression files...not! haha
H's letters make people squirm - in the past he has had fairly senior people ringing him to apologise. But then he knows the right people to name-drop and he knows the right things to say. He's been in the industry for a long time (20 years) and is quite senior himself. Then I never hear the end of his triumph for the next fortnight (almost as exciting to listen to as the supression files stories!)
He doesn't like it the other way around though. H's current annoyance is the keyboard warriors on twitter. They've been causing some upset at his work recently.
Will your H be leaving data too, or will you still have to hear all about the exciting world of data even after you've left it behind?
03/06/2013 at 17:27
Yay, suppression files..... . Almost as exciting as watching paint dry. But not quite.
Ah yes I suppose it helps to know who to name-drop. If your H has been in the industry for that long there's a chance I've probably heard of him, or work with someone who does. It's a tiny industry really, everyone knows everyone. It sounds friendly but it isn't! Ha ha. I can't wait to get out of it - 9 more days!
Yep my H is staying put for now as he's senior at my place and he's also very good at what he does - but seeing as he's heavily involved in the technical side of my accounts, I'm sure all I'll hear about is what's going on on my old accounts with the new account manager, even after I'm gone. Hooray.
03/06/2013 at 17:55
Oh god yes, it's an incestuous industry - H very recently started a new job and he already knew half of the people on his new team. How random would that be if you have worked together at some point.
Hope the next nine days fly!
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