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23/03/2009 at 14:01
Calling all parent.
Iam a foundation degree in early years student. Jo frost work does not work, maybe for some children but not all. Children to do not begin as a blank canvus, their temperment is already in built. Children who she may refer to as 'naughty' are not. There temperment is clashing with your own and it is not you fault.
There is also lots of work that critique's her work and if you think about it chanel 4 are not going to show you a family which she has failed with!!!! One family she visited ended up with no home 6 months later due to the little boy setting alight to the kitchen!!!!!!! you can not use one technique for all children!!!
23/03/2009 at 14:46
30/03/2009 at 21:01
14/06/2009 at 09:41
14/06/2009 at 12:11
jo frost drives me crazy, she has no children of her own therefore i dont care for her opinions, oh yes shes been a nanny for how ever many years, but thats no where near the same as being a mum 24hrs a day with no break or no choice to quit!!!
Her naughty step technique is utter rubbish yes maybe older children it works for but not a 1yr old my son works better with being sat face to face with me told simply what hes done is wrong and to appolagise, and until hes calm and appolagised he stays put. he has speech problems so a hug or kiss is ok by me its showing understanding!!! She never seems to alter her technique when it clearly is failing and as much as i love my pp magazine i skip right past her section!
oh and she doesnt say unacceptable right!
14/06/2009 at 14:03
14/06/2009 at 14:58
dont get me wrong i watch super nanny, but spend majority of it shouting at the tv, most of the kids just need stability!
i watched a US one and they needed a 2yr old out of mum and dads bed and she decided to take his dummy away at the same time, which in my opinion was a bit brutal x
14/06/2009 at 19:31
I have friends who swear by Supernanny and her books. I have got her baby and toddler books and everything that I have tried so far has worked fine. I have one very strong and strong willed 21 month old too, and her techniques work well.
So what if she doesn't pronounce unacceptable right!!!! Show me someone who speaks perfectly 100% of the time!!!
Maybe I should mention that I have tried some of supernanny's techniques with my secondary school pupils and they have even worked on them!!!
In her books Jojo always says that she only uses her experience and that its trial and error. The families that she helps are usually at breaking point and need to be shown how to be consistent and follow through. I think there are times when we are all guilty of needing some reminders!!
14/06/2009 at 21:08
maybe i should just correct my post, we used her rapid return when jack went in a bed and it worked after two nights,
so ill give her credit it works for some people, i think it just hit a nerve seeing a two year old sob after being kicked out of mum and dads bed and then having his dummy taken, jack still uses a dummy at night, much to my displeasure but i couldnt imagine changing something as big as where he slept and then taking that too! i felt it was a bit harsh but sometimes it can be what they call 'quick and plainless' i have no idea how im going to tackle the dummy issue as after 4mnths of no sleep i caved and gave lola one!
i guess i just dont take kindly to people 'knowing it all' when they havent lived it, hence why my childless health visitor isnt asked many questions, there have been far to many people on tv claim to have a quick fix for our terrible children, did any one watch bringing up baby?? where they left newborns to scream at night and you musnt make eye contact when feeding etc, id love to see the bond those babies have with there parents now.
15/06/2009 at 08:48
I love Jo, of course they are not going to show the programmes where it hasn't worked, that wouldn't be very inspirational to the parents watching it!
Most people that watch her would no that not all the technics work on every child, but if you are at your wits end you will try anything. God i would let her come over and show me how to get Jessica of her Dummy!
15/06/2009 at 10:27
i love jojo and her techniques, which do work if used correctly! sometimes i use a technipue and wonder why its not working, so talk to my hubby or watch a programme and realise where im goign wrong, so start again.
we've used the controlled crying with both girls. i use the naughty step on my 4 year old, and am introducing it to my 2 year old a the minute.
lately, ant (hubby), niamh (4 yrold) and i recently made some house rules, which have worked really well for both parties, niamhs main one is to stop whinging otherwise she gets no charlie and lola, and ants and mine is to not to get stresed too easily, or its no computer for us!!
her techniques are workign for us, but thats just our opinions!
15/06/2009 at 12:36
Have to say,having been both a nanny and a Mum the two don't compare.You go to work as a nanny,on a full nights sleep,do your job,go home at the end of the day to child free time and another full night's sleep.It's easy for a nanny to be consistant,doing it "right" every time.As a Mum I confess to doing whatever is easiest at the time,especially if I'm tired.Also I think with all the best intentions even the most devoted nanny doesn't have the same emotional bond with the child that makes you let them do something so they don't get upset cos sometimes it really doesn't matter that much if you have a child that wears a hat 24/7,or he only drinks milk in this cup and juice in that,the little things that don't matter
I think Jo Frost's techniques do work,sometimes they seem harsh,but once you get through the crying bit and the good behaviour becomes habit you have happy well behaved kids who know the boundaries.We use the naughty step,we've done controlled crying,sometimes they work,but you do have to be consistant,and it does feel mean sometimes.
I'd love Jojo to come sort out my lot for me.They've had Daddy,Grandma,Grandad,and Aunty Sarah all looking after them in the last few weeks and lets just say the kids are revolting.I have a 10 year old who's turned into the Harry Enfield Kevin.Trouble is it's catching.Mummy's back in charge now,though.
We've done behaviour charts,wehad them earning pocket money at one time.I don't like the idea of charts and lists of rules,makes me feel we're dysfunctional.
I do watch the Supernanny program and also the House of Tiny Tearaways.The families do tend to be really extreme cases,and you can usually see it's the parents are the problem.But then that makes good telly.
15/06/2009 at 13:25
Well I have only ever watched 2 episodes of supernanny and the children featured were a lot older than mine. Maybe I should start watching it,seems lots of you really like her and techniques.
You are right Caroline it doesn't matter if she cant say a word right-I'm sure my slang is far worse but must admit I am very consistent with my boys as friends have advised of the trouble that follows if you change your boundaries with little ones. Haven't seen the other show Jo mentioned,I think I've got to start watching more television!!!
15/06/2009 at 15:53
15/06/2009 at 17:39
15/06/2009 at 17:52
Saw that.That poor couple told to put their twins in the garden and not allowed to pick them up.Sure it was twins with that couple.Might have got them in a routine early but it all comes eventually.There was another one never put the baby down except when it slept in their bed.
Certainly wouldn't want someone telling me how to look after my baby,Common sense would tell you neither way is right,although maybe it's right for someone out there
15/06/2009 at 17:56
15/06/2009 at 20:45
Simone, I loved the supernanny where they got rid of a child's dummy by hanging all their dummies on a tree overnight.. the dummy fairy had to take them away to all the little babies as they needed dummies as they were so little. In return the dummy fairy brought the child a present in the morning to say thank you for being such a big girl - in this case it was a fairy dressing up outfit.
I thought that was a fab idea
15/06/2009 at 20:57
16/06/2009 at 11:57
i do like jo frost i know some kids wont react to her routines and rituals but lots of children do!i've got to say i dont like the american versions!theyre way to over acted but i think this is more down to the producers but the thinking behind it is stll the same.
i'm sure i read somewhere jo does have a son???an older one about 18/19?she wouldnt be where she is if what she did didnt work.i think the reason why she has to come over strong and know it all is cause she deals with parents who have lost their cofidence and will power to think anything they could do would ever change their tiny tearaways.she has to be like that.
saying all this my other half isnt a fan...cant win us all over tho can she?same with anyone i guess
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