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09/01/2013 at 14:31
Just been reading her blog post here - http://kirstiemallsopp.wordpress.com/2013/01/08/140-is-not-enough-for-nct-discussion/?preview=true&preview_id=2&preview_nonce=2092e2238c Apparently she dislikes the way the NCT deal with c-sections in their antenatal classes. I've had very little to do with the NCT really, apart from going to a few of their second hand sales (and thankfully living through the ordeals) - is what she's implying true?
09/01/2013 at 14:42
I followed a bit of this on Twitter and apprently in some classes they refuse to discuss CS full stop and shunned one lady completely who decided to bottle feed.
09/01/2013 at 14:43
There was a massive thread on DW about this. I have no experience personally about the NCT, however, I think that they are very hippyish if that is the right word.
09/01/2013 at 15:09
I think it depends on your teacher. The only session I managed to attend did cover spinals and c-sections, but not in as much detail as vaginal deleivery. My NCT teacher was very kind after Luke was born and phoned me up and sent leaflets.
09/01/2013 at 15:16
Nope, it's totally inaccurate. KA seems to have it in for them, which is rather unfair considering they are a charity. Teachers and classes do vary, and yes they tend to advocate natural childbirth as a first choice, but I think anyone doing what she alleges would be a rogue teacher (they are all self employed so there is only a certain amount of 'control' head office can have over them).
There was a lady on our course who was booked in for a section due to her anxiety issues and the teacher spent a lot of time going through how she would experience birth and making sure she felt involved.
09/01/2013 at 15:43
i think she's on a bit of a witch hunt, TBH. the content of the classes we attended was guided by us, and as we had a girl who was expecting twins, and therefore the probability of her having a CS was high, it was something we covered. one person 'played' the pt, others took other roles within the operating theatre so we could see how many people there would be in there, what they were for etc. we also talked about epidurals etc. we didn't really discuss bottle feeding, but that's because none of us asked to discuss it. as it happens, 4 out of the 5 of us had CS (all emergency), and 2 weren't able to BF successfully. i think it also depends very much on the teacher too.
i know the NCT is seen as pro-BF, pro-natural birth, which i don't think is that much of an issue (these were both things i wanted, so going to NCT classes was a natural move for me), but i think it seems only responsible for them to cover the other possibilities of childbirth. to not do so is incredibly short sighted.
09/01/2013 at 15:57
No experience of NCT but agree that it probably depends on the teacher you have - in my NHS antenatal class, they refused to discuss c-sections as apparently it was so unlikely that we would need one that there was no point!
09/01/2013 at 16:05
I think it entirely depends on your teacher. In our class one of the women knew she was going to have a c section so she specifically asked for them to be covered and we then spent a whole session on it explaining what the process was, who all the people in the room would be etc. Half my class went onto have sections so were really grateful for that session. I know of friends who have run into the types of teacher that KA obviously did who refused to discuss non natural delivery methods. I think sometimes the NCT is too militant on issues such as natural birth, breast feeding etc which unfortunately alienates a lot of women who would benefit from the wealth of knowledge and support they offer.
09/01/2013 at 16:32
I've been following this on Twitter.
I was very wary of the NCT before signing up as I'm not into all that "hippy" childbirth stuff but we decided to give it a go mainly so I could make friends.
I *knew* I was heading for a CS and so did ask a lot of questions relating to CS. I sometimes felt like they would prefer not to cover it but they did - including as others have said, a role play of who's who in a CS. I did find it helpful but did feel like the drama of it all was over-played.
Our NCT teacher was very pro home-birth which I am totally against and very pro not having MMR, though she did say that was her decision. I thought this was the type of thing the NCT were all about so easily dis-missed this side of things.
Overall though, the classes were great in telling us what we needed to know.
09/01/2013 at 16:49
I think it depends on the teacher- ours was very pro hypno birthing, MWU birthing, home birthing, water birthing, etc and very clearly against any form of pain relief. She did cover everything though, and when prompted by the class she was very informative. My H felt she was far too hippy for his liking I have heard different stories from friends in regards to their experiences though, most would say that they felt all topics were covered fairly. All of them were very pro BFing though but as long as they are not making women who choose to FF feel inferior, I don't see any issue with that.
09/01/2013 at 17:38
I have no real experience of NCT as we only had our first class on Monday, but one thing we did notice was that at one point the lady said 'if you choose to breastfeed' which we thought was good as she wasn't making the assumption that everyone would.
09/01/2013 at 18:08
We did Nct. Ours covered epidurals, c sections, ventouse and forceps as well as natural delivery. We did do scenarios though on how to avoid an epidural if possible. I think KA is being unfair, you can't generalise.
09/01/2013 at 21:35
We watched a C section video in our NCT classes! I thought our classes were very well balanced, gave us an overall picture. We did talk a lot about BFing, but then every one of us wanted to do it, it didnt feel pressurised. I felt more BFing pressure from BT hitchers to Bfeed than I did from NCT. Also gave me some amazing friends who I now could not be without.
09/01/2013 at 21:44
And PND, we definitely did that, I remember the info we were given - one set for the mums and one for the dads so they knew what to look out for.
10/01/2013 at 08:19
Haven't read the blog as on phone but we did nct and a whole class was dedicated to c-sections/spinals/intervention. The teacher had everyone involved in setting up a c-section setting and explaining how many people would be in theatre, why etc. it was really helpful. More so for my friend (in the class) who had a very traumatic time and she found it very reassuring xx
Ps I didn't find nct hippyish at all
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