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12/01/2014 at 13:37
Are you about and can I pick your brains re live in maids/nannies please?!
14/01/2014 at 08:39
14/01/2014 at 08:42
We have decided to bite the bullet and hire live in help when we move in March. It is more to do housework than childcare which is proving a problem as anyone I have spoken to really wants a nanny role which we don't need with E at school and me not working. Question is, where do I start looking? Did you advertise or were you lucky enough to take someone through a referral? I thought we had found someone brilliant recently but she has asked if her husband can move in too. I'm not sure there would be enough space- the villa's we are looking at have cupboard size maids rooms!
14/01/2014 at 11:38
My friend has also just got a new nanny/maid and she started of looking on Expat women as many ladies advertise there, once she had called a couple others started calling her as word of mouth spread between them. She also asked her neighbours maids and got friends to ask theirs too, again she got more phone calls this way too.
When speaking to them I would not necessarily say it is just for housework, I would say for both childcare and looking after the villa, just not be too specific on how it will be split. Ours does house work as well as childcare and it works out well but think this is pretty standard.
Where about are you thinking of moving to, I know you mentioned about moving a while back?
Our nanny/maids husband works in Dubai so has staff quarters and stays with us once a week, midweek so works fine. He has just stayed with us for a month though as he was between jobs and it was too much so would suggest to try and avoid this where possible but then that may just be me.
Also be prepared that you may get lots of phone calls from people but often they don’t show up, cancel at the last minute so can be quite frustrating and time consuming. Secondly, quite often the first question they ask is salary, so have in your mind what you are prepared to go up to for the right person. We paid a set amount for the first three months then increased once we knew it was working for us all. This does not seem such a common thing to do but worked well for us.
My friend who employed a maid recently, she was set to move in the next day then started talking about visa's/ money/ family member sick etc etc so be prepared to be messed around a little. My friend ended up finding someone else but it took a good 3 weeks of hard work.
Not sure if that was much help but shout if you have any questions :)
14/01/2014 at 13:55
I don't tend to go on there, but might start checking weekly just in case. I was going to post an ad on there and am keeping an eye out on the British Mums FB group. We are focussing on The Meadows. Have lots of friends there so they have asked their maids to keep an ear out for anyone in need of work. I guess we could be vague about the chid care side of the role and it would be important that whoever moves in can have a good relationship with my two. I'm with you on the husband thing. We have friends in Umm Suqeim who have a huge annex outside for their maid and her husband. He drives and does their gardening and that works well but the newer villa's here just don't accommodate that space invasion!
I'm dreading the whole interview thing already and have heard so many similar stories of it not working out within a couple of days. H mentioned the 3 months probation period (as he called it) but pretty much meant lets pay them x amount and if we are happy with them, raise it after 3 months. Guess it works as an incentive for them too! Do you pay annual flights?
14/01/2014 at 15:13
I don't really go on there either unless I'm looking for something specific, my friend found it a good starting point. Didn't even know the was a Mums FB group. In spinneys at Meadows I sometimes see adverts on the notice boards from families that are leaving and looking for work for their maid/nanny - will keep a look out next time I go.
Legally you only have to provide a flight home every two years as per the labour law contract but we pay for one annually. Their flights are far cheaper than to the UK so not too bad. Also get the Government Medical Card for them, this will cover any medical care for free including emergencies.
I figured we have to go through a probation period when starting a new job, so we weren't doing anything to crazy or mean. We have done it twice now and as you say a good incentive.
Depending on Nationality of your nanny/maid they soon make friends with others, there is very much a community amongst them all.
Have you looked at any agencies too? Another friend did this but think I would only choose this as a last resource as seems more expensive but no gureeentee that they stay?
15/01/2014 at 09:24
FB group is here if you want it, it's so much better than Expat Woman forum, much less bitching www.facebook.com/.../333790940005370
Thank you, I never go there so that would be helpful but don't go out of your way! I don't want to go down the agency route if we can help it. At 3k a month and the maid getting 1k of it, it all seems so wrong...
15/01/2014 at 10:40
3k a month!!!
I sure my friend paid a 'finders' fee and then normally salary each month after that but then either way I wouldn't choose this route either.
Thanks for the link, will go check it out.
How is your hunt for a new villa going? We are having fun and games with our landlord at the moment. I hate how the rental market works here :(
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