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13/03/2013 at 15:53
I need a crash course in the statementing process
help! any links/stories from parents/ teachers welcome. I know we are late to the process for a September 2013 start.
13/03/2013 at 15:59
Got to go out now but hopefully these might get you started. Did you ahve specific questions or was it jsut about the process?
Sparkling would be best to speak to because I think she has gone throuhg it most recently. Although SlightlyMad will ahev gone through the process as well just not recently. I'm on the other side
13/03/2013 at 16:03
School/parents/other professionals send in an application for statutory assessment with lots of information attached including medical reports, assessment info etc.
If accepted, county will send letters asking for all relevant professionals to send in reports.
A panel then considers the application and decides whether to grant the statement or not and produces a draft copy.
All involved have the chance to comment on the draft before it becomes a confirmed statement. The statement will include details of the support needed, how many hours are needed and if appropriate, what school or setting the child will attend.
The whole process can take anything up to 6 months to complete if the initial application is complete.
Happy to help with any specific questions from an education point of view!
13/03/2013 at 16:10
I feel really winded about it all. we had a TAC 2 weeks ago and everyone assured me that Luke did not need statementing. They flattered me with lots of positives, said he'd improved enough to just need a bit of support and a statement was not needed. i brought up that the community pead had said he 'would do well' with one, and they said ' that's the opinion of a health professional not an educationist..' made me feel like a neurotic mother. then yesterday he was reviewed by GOSH and the feeding and eating disorder team who said he was at risk of failing without the 'contracted' support and they would be putting in writing a recommendation for a statement. they were alarmed at what was said to us, that he was choking hazard, he was at risk of not having adequate nutrition and fluid intake and that in turn would affect his learning, concentration and could mean all our hard work with his feeding therapy goes backwards and if he looses weight we would have to resort back to tube feeds in the day. I know that having a health professional recommend something does not always mean that you will get it though. When Luke was first discharged from hospital the Respiratory Consulatnt asked that we have 7 nights care for him. he was fully ventilated via his trachesotomy and made little respiratory effort, yet we were only awarded 5 nights. His care needs on the other 2 nights was exactly the same; he didn't suddenly not need equipment to breathe for him :(
13/03/2013 at 16:12
Margot- so we as parents can request it? It doesn't have to be the LEA/school that initiate it?
13/03/2013 at 16:13
It sounds like a bit of a rollercoaster for you Carole, one thing I will definitely say is that if the option is there then go for it - not only is it good to get stuff in place, as it's a lot easier to change it in future once it's there, but the system is due to change soon and whilst I don't know a lot about it, I think it will be harder to get support assigned so stringently to individual children.
13/03/2013 at 16:14
No, you as parents can request statutory assessment - forms should be on your council's website or available from the SEN team.
13/03/2013 at 16:18
had no sleep last night my head was buzzing. I feel like I should have pushed more earlier, but I believed them. I don't want this transition to fail.
13/03/2013 at 16:20
the physical impairment officer from the lEA was adament that he could be supported at meal/snack times through the school funding but GOSH said it needed to be 'contractd time' otherwise staff might be allocated to other duties, and this is where the statement was important.
13/03/2013 at 16:59
only from a parents point of view... 2 of mine are statemented... I went to a SEN school the other is in mainstream.
When all the talk came out about statements back before child 1 started school I really didn't want her to have it, I thought that it would set her aside from her peers and be more detrimental than helpful. I was talked through it by the community paeds nurse and the early years SEN co ordinator, in the end I was glad it was in place, if you have a chance of extra help then go for it.. it is reviewed yearly so if it's found that he no longer needs the help then the statement can be withdrawn. It takes so long for it to come through its better to get it in place ASAP as you dont want to wait until he is in school and he needs help and have to wait for all the red tape surrounding getting a statement.
13/03/2013 at 19:29
I work as a one to one support assistant in a classroom with a child who has a statement, his statement is for 30 hrs a week so I'm basically paid to be with him all the time pretty much-however to encourage his independence i will often 'set him up' with his work and leave him for a few minutes so he doesnt become too dependant-the headteacher isnt keen on velcro ta's!!I have a lot of involvement with his lesson plans, his parents, his speech therapist, occupational therapist and the headteacher.
The progress he has made since getting that 1-1 support is outstanding, i am regularly in tears as I get so proud of him!!
The statement process for him took a while-they were hoping he would have 1-1 in September but it ended up being end of nov.
14/03/2013 at 09:13
thank you SM and Amythest. Luke doesn't need full time 1:1 care and I think that's where the confusion lies. My understanding is that every child is entitled to 10 hours per week support without a statement, which would probably be enough for Luke. But GOSH are concerned that these hours are not legally binding without a statement, so if a member of staff is off or assigned to another duty Luke may be left vulnerable. The thing i don't understand is if you can have a statement for less than 10 hors a week.
14/03/2013 at 09:27
Can't remember if it is 10 hours or not here, I have a feeling it might be 5. Here's a link to the SEN Code of Practice which should give some more guidance on the process and what you as parents can do:
14/03/2013 at 11:55
Carole, my sister teaches at a primary school and is part of the SEN team. I can happily ask her the process in your case or even put you in touch with her if you like? I know she won't mind x
14/03/2013 at 12:07
WS- any help gratefully accepted. if want to link her to this post that's ok.
thanks Margot- I will add the link to my favourites and have a good read through
14/03/2013 at 12:13
My nephew has got his through very quickly. I am fairly certain that he didn't have one in the autumn but they've already been told his allocated school place for this September (6 weeks earlier than normal) and how much support he will be getting. I haven't spoken to my brother/SIL in detail about it but last time we spoke they thought they wouldn't know until after the mainstream places were allocated (end of March).
14/03/2013 at 16:22
As a health professional and not a educationalist (!) I would also push to go through the process. Luke would benefit from having somebody named to help him out with his nutrition and this needs to be available outside of standard break times....what happens if they have a baking class or someone brings in cakes and nobody thinks to check whether Luke is safe to have them? You'd hope they would notice but it would be easy to forget about his swallowing. Also, the school may say they are happy to provide support at mealtimes but what happens of Luke's having a day where he takes longer to eat than normal (sorry if this is an inaccurate assumption). Without dedicated staff to help the staff member may rush because they have to be somewhere else and Luke misses out. A statement would provide you with a written standard of what you can expect Luke to get rather than a verbal promise from the head. As someone else has said, if he doesn't need the support in a year at the review you can change it.
Can I also just say how brilliantly you have done with his food and generally. We are talking about Luke going to mainstream school with only a little bit of support-that is blooming brilliant and down to your hard work and his determination xx
14/03/2013 at 17:05
Thank you KK. that's exactly what GOSH were saying. what if the member of staff is asked to cover first aid/is off sick/on course/it's wet play and routines change. I'd hate to think of him sat there on his own not eating, whilst all his friends are out playing, because we know that he won't eat unless supported. they said that he doesn't have an appetite and so won't eat because he doesn't recognise hunger or thirst. I need to tred carefully with my approach to raising this as I don't wnat to offend the new school and imply they won't be able to commit to supporting Luke, but we owe it to him to make sure he has the care he needs. I'm going to wait and see what the letter says and we will plan our approach.
14/03/2013 at 17:07
Carole I've messaged my sister to ask for advice x
15/03/2013 at 00:13
Carole. Gave my sister your background and info from this thread- her response is below.
Getting a statement isn't easy but in this situation I can't see how he wouldn't have one!! GP route etc is all good for back up then school SENCo needs to apply for a statement. SENCo needs as much evidence as possible to put forward in the application so all of the above you've stated would go forward. Schools have to provide the first 10 hours of support even for those who have a statement. It really comes down to the school but if this was my school we'd have him on school action + at least and be providing him with the care needed. PLus would be applying and pushing for a statement to get the extra hours he needs. She needs to push this. Let me know if I can help more and I'll do some research.
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