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02/05/2013 at 19:49
I'm getting in a muddle over this!
All last week I was using OPKs thinking I might be going to OV. They were nowhere near positive but then on Thursday (25th) I noticed I had sore boobs. I always get really sore nipples a day or so after OV so I thought that perhaps I had ovulated on the Tue/Wed and had just missed the surge or that the sore boobs were just some pre OV symptom this month. On Sunday night I got a positive opk and again on Monday and the Tue so did a hpt on Tue morning and got a line and then 1-2on the CBD that night when I got home.
So, surely if I had OVd on say the monday (22nd) I wouldn't have a positive opk on the sun night/Monday which would put me 7dpo! I know we DTD on the 16th, 22nd and 24th but can't remember If we did in between those dates. I went through MD posts and I had loads of all types of CM and some pain around the 17th so if I OVd around then, that would put me 11-12dpo by the time I did the CBD. I also had a blob of cm on Monday (the day before my bfp) that had a streak of brown/red blood in it.
I talked through all of this on the phone with the woman from EPU today (who wasn't very nice) and she asked me what dates I had gotten negative tests and I told her I tested on the 10th and got a faint line and then on the 14th it was negative. She said that I wouldn't have OVd that soon after the neg test so she thinks I'm only just over 3 weeks now which I just don't think sounds right. The sore boobs are really throwing me though as to why they didnt get sore until last week if I did OV around the 17th.
What's your thoughts ladies?
02/05/2013 at 19:57
If I remember correctly, you will get a line on an opk if you are pg. I would say you ov'd about 2-3 weeks ago. Your blob could be a little bit of implantation. Try not to worry x
02/05/2013 at 19:59
No wonder you're in a muddle. I can really sympathise with the sore boobs though, mine are killing me!! I always get sore boobs from about 4 days past ov anyway...
I don't know how long it would take for hcg to build up in your system to register +ve on a hpt but 7dpo does sound a bit short.
I'm not helping at all am I?!?! Hope you get a more sensible answer (sorry)
02/05/2013 at 20:38
I reckon the woman at the EPU is probably right. If the cbd is correct you're between 7 and 14 dpo. I reckon the positive opk was actually an early bfp - by the sounds of it you most likely ov'd on the 22nd - you can still sometimes see the surge on an opk after the egg is released. The bloody cm was probably post- implantation, but you may well have implanted at 7 dpo. So you are probably 3 weeks. I think! Sorry that the lady wasn't very nice :-(
02/05/2013 at 20:44
Thanks ladies, Penny I think the OPKs were picking up the hcg before I tested so if I OVd on the 22nd (which was the day we DTD so that's pretty unlikely as the swimmers wouldn't be there waiting) then that means I was 6dpo on the Sunday when the opk picked it up and then 8 dpo on Tue night when I did the CBD (with pee I had maybe held for a couple of hours) is that not highly unlikely? I thought the OPKs would pick it up after you would be able to get a positive on a hpt?
02/05/2013 at 20:50
Implantation can happen anytime between 5 and 12dpo. So its possible. And the opks can be quite sensitive so they might have picked it up first. Has the EPU offered you a dating scan or anything?
02/05/2013 at 21:15
They'll only scan me after 8 weeks (which makes no sense as I went for a scan at 7+3 last time!) She thinks I can only be about 3+3 at the moment so isn't interested for another 5 weeks. I'm going to get a private scan but still need to figure out how far on I am! I know implantation can happen early but it still takes a couple of days for the hcg to make it into your urine so I still think that 6dpo on a opk sounds unrealistic. Plus we DTD on the night of the 22nd so that would mean OV would have to be much later at night or the 23rd! I wish I'd seen the surge so I wasn't guessing!
02/05/2013 at 21:34
If you got a 1-2 week in a CBD you must defo be over 3 weeks since ovulation? Is that not how it works? So could it not be earlier than they're saying?
When are you going to book a scan for?
02/05/2013 at 21:41
I think if I've got 1-2 that means I was between 7 and 14dpo when I tested on Tue. I just think it was more likely 12-13dpo from OVing on say the 17th or 18th than 7-8dpo from OVing around the 22nd/23rd. Not sure imp, how far on will you be at yours?
02/05/2013 at 21:47
Also meant to say the CBD things just roughly isn't it? It's not an exact science so it's not going to be exactly 7-14 dpo for everyone it's just an indication.
02/05/2013 at 22:04
It's so confusing its frying my little brain! I have been so surprised by the lack of support both you and I have has from the medical service so far. I really thought they'd offer an early scan.
I *think* ill be about "7 + something" when I go for mine. I don't know exactly. AF first day was 23/03 and I got a bfp on a CBD on the 22/04 at 1-2 weeks. I think I ov'd around the 8/04, I really don't know though. I didn't know what to do for the best but just wanted a scan ASAP to try and ease my worry!
02/05/2013 at 22:14
The EPU at the hospital have been rubbish through all of this! As you say, the lack of support has been bad. I'd like to go quite early but I could have my dates out by a week so not sure what to do. I just can't get my head round how I could have only OVd at the beginning of last week. 7weeks something sounds right for you by your appointment, like you I just want a scan so I can see something there
02/05/2013 at 22:18
MDD, for the purposes of booking your scan, why don't you take the mid point of what the cbd reckons? So if on Tuesday you were 1-2 weeks, assume that 3.5 days earlier was exactly one week, so assume that you concieved 1 week before that...so, on 23rd April. That does tie in with when you dtd, and perhaps you did ov on that night. So you could assume that you're 10dpo ish. I'm getting myself confused trying to tie this in with your opks though, sorry! Lol.
02/05/2013 at 22:25
Sorry I'm giving everyone brain fry! The more I think about this I really don't think I was 8dpo when I tested. I got a stronger line with mid morning urine than when I tested at 11dpo with my last bfp and I didn't use fmu for the CBD, I just did it that night after dinner so was definitely diluted urine.
02/05/2013 at 22:58
Ovulation kits will also pick up pregnancy hormones. It seems that you may have ovulated earlier than expected, then picked up the pregnancy early on. They will only ask for the date of your last period for dating purposes anyway (few people will know exactly when they ovulated) and the 12 wk scan will give a more accurate date.
03/05/2013 at 05:59
Thanks LWO, that's exactly what I think happened but I didn't have a period to go from, I had a MMC last month and an ERPC on 25th March so no AF inbetween, my last AF was 8th Jan lol! I still think I've surely OVd before the beginning of last week x
03/05/2013 at 07:59
If it helps, my CBD said 2-3 weeks when it was cd28 so they are only a guide. I had a scan at 6+5 and there really wasn't much to see other than a heartbeat flicking. Without meaning to sound harsh, there isn't much the epu can do at this stage is there, a scan will only tell you things are ok as at the scan, they can't stop things going wrong the next day. I spent every day worrying and while its understandable it eats you up and wears you out. Try to enjoy what you have and if needs be pay for a private scan if you think it would help. Sending you lots of sticky, healthy vibes xx
03/05/2013 at 08:03
Thanks birdie, I know your totally right, I only had an empty sac measuring 5.5 weeks last time so tbh I just want to see anything in the sac, a fetal pole anything! Just so I know it's not the same as last time. I completely know what you mean about it not stopping things going wrong there after x
03/05/2013 at 08:33
I've been trying to figure out dates too. Been going back + forth with when we DTD etc and have concluded that ill have to see what scan says. GP was lovely about it. I saw her 6weeks post m/c and she said everyone knows its not an exact science but we know you are 6weeks or less pregnant :-) Try not to stress over it, nothing you can do. I've been counting like "a week since I got bfp" etc which helps the week's plod on a bit :-)
03/05/2013 at 08:48
I pee'd on an opk out of curiousity this morning and I got a very dark test line, at 5+4. For some reason it won't let me upload the pic here though. So I guess it is possible to see a line on an opk at 3/4 weeks.
Imp- this satisifies my POAS addiction for today! Lol
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