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27/05/2014 at 22:03
F is fabulous at night time and goes down a treat, he doesn't cry when he wakes during the night or if he's hungry BUT day time naps are such a struggle it's untrue. Unless we are out in the car he will scream and fight sleep regardless of what I do or don't do. It's exhausting! Evenings are the worst.
Any insights/experience/ideas/advice? I'm getting so worn down by it :(
28/05/2014 at 07:24
Are you using the two hour rule? Is he overtired when you put him down? Maya will scream if I leave her nap too long. Have you tried using white noise/lullabies etc?
28/05/2014 at 09:58
What's the two hour rule?! He takes a short nap in the morning and I put him down with his dummy in his pod and sat with him with a hand on him and he was fine for 10 mins then the hysteria started as he fought the sleep. I ended up picking him up and rocking and bouncing him to sleep. Haven't tried noise/music. I'll give it a shot. Thanks!
28/05/2014 at 10:22
28/05/2014 at 10:26
28/05/2014 at 10:31
Thank you that's v helpful! F does sleep a lot still at 11weeks so that would sense for him. I think I need to find ways to soothe him and quieten him before nap time too. It is incredibly stressful and I feel so sorry for the wee guy. Thank you!
28/05/2014 at 14:51
We had terrible trouble with S resisting naps. He only went up to two hours awake time at 5.5 months, before then he could only last 1.5 hours. White noise was a most for us, we have an app on the iPad called sleep bug which has some lovely ones, waves, river, fire crackling etc.
When we introduced a little wind down routine all our nap issues got infinitely better. We put him in his sleeping bag, while I sing twinkle twinkle little star, then read him a story and put him down. Could you try something like that? Only needs to be a few short actions that they associate with nap time and start to wind down.
28/05/2014 at 15:18
28/05/2014 at 19:25
It can be tough to judge though! S often wouldn't look tired at 1.5 hours but when I left it, he would be such a terror to get down. His sleepy signs were so subtle. Now he rubs his eyes and goes a bit pale so I know but I was a bit clueless before which is why it's tempting to wait a bit longer.
28/05/2014 at 21:27
Yep A would cry and cry and resist all sleep efforts until I caught on that he was overtired. Follow the 1.5/2 hour rule for a few days to catch up on lost sleep and then when you feel more confident that nap times are nicer experiences for you both then start looking for those sleepy cues and follow those rather than the clock. I still sometimes get it wrong now after months of trying but most of the time we have much less of the hysterical crying.
28/05/2014 at 21:50
Thank you ladies. I'm feeling so crap about it all tbh and feeling like such a failure for him getting into such a state so regularly. Popcorn did you use the sleeping bag during the day? I can also feel wee sharp ends of teeth poking through and we both have thrush from the feeding...and he's in a wonder week so none of that is helping. I need to address to nap time routine regardless of those things and a wind down routine is the place to start I think! Thanks again.
29/05/2014 at 07:33
Don't worry, I think it's perfectly normal for babies to be like this. Once they start noticing the world around them they don't want to sleep in case they miss anything exciting. Take it as a compliment that he is so desperate to stay awake and play with you!
29/05/2014 at 08:19
Ah it's horrible when everything collides like that. Don't be so hard on yourself, you're doing a fab job!
We only started using the sleeping bag during the day about a couple of months ago when he went in to his cot during the day for sleeps as well. Until then it was only at night. I wondered if it might confuse him to use it during the day but we've had no problems at all.
29/05/2014 at 09:12
Thank you ladies. I really appreciate it. First nap of the day and he's not sleeping but he's in his poddle pod and not crying. We did a story, I wrapped him in a cosy blanket and we sang a sleepy song. He cried when I put him down but I got out of his line of sight but close enough to pop his dummy back in. I'm hoping he is going to self settle to sleep but he's busy chewing happily on his hand right now! He's not screaming which is a first! Fingers crossed!!
29/05/2014 at 09:36
Well once he started rubbing his eyes he started to get hysterical! I sat on the floor and let him cry for 10 mins but it just got harder and more distressed. I picked him up and after a couple of sobs he fell asleep and I've put him back in his pod where he is still sleeping. Do I continue with the routine and hope he "gets it" over the course of the next week? Do I continue to let him cry each time? Thanks so much for the advice!!
29/05/2014 at 13:01
29/05/2014 at 13:07
O used to be a terrible day time sleeper, I then read about watching sleep cues etc and started putting him down then. At first he would sometimes cry for 45 mins and I always sat beside him soothing him- after a few days the crying time started decreasing and sleep time got longer. Now he self settles and naps lovely in the day. It's hard work but for me it worked.
29/05/2014 at 13:50
That's good to hear noodle! There is light at the end of the tunnel. MrsB I've been a sleepy nursery rhyme on the CD player - at least that way I can sing it if we are out and about. I'm on the third cycle today each one is 30 mins of settling and a 30min nap but the crying hasn't been as intense once I've responsed to the cues quickly enough. It's very intensive but worth it in the long run! I feel less despairing so thank you xxx
29/05/2014 at 14:15
For us it took about a week to see a sleep difference (as in less crying more sleep) so I hope there is light there very soon! We used a star toy that sings twinkle twinkle tune to help make him realise its bedtime. Was so good I went out and brought 2 more as I convinced if that broke so would his naps haha
29/05/2014 at 14:33
Quite right noodle!!!
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