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13/06/2013 at 07:15
so breastfeeding hasnt worked out for me as I had hoped and yesterday I made the switch to formula. I've done feeling guilty and lots of tears I now feel better having made a decision.
have been using ready made formula at the moment but need to get organised with powder. Just wondered what people do at night times Or when your out abs about. Do you use a flask?
Top tips please x
13/06/2013 at 07:48
Heya chick. When we are out and about now it depends how long I'm out for and when she's due a feed. If it's within two hours which it normally is with my chunk I make the bottle in full and keep it in the warmer. If we're talking about an all day out I take the powder in pots and water in the thermal carrier. It normally does me mayve 6 hours but doesn't adhere to the guidelines of having the formula go in at 70 oC. If possible I then ask for cup or jug of water in a cafe to heat it up but it's not always an option. If we're visiting people with a kettle I male fresh as at home. Lots of people use the ready made cartons out but we can't as E is on comfort which doesn't come that way.
For night time we follow the rules where possible. We don't feed at night since 12 weeks but say she had 6ox bottle id use 3oz of cooled water in a sealed pot and add that to 3ozout the kettle which I add the formula to. I'd say get up put kettle on change nappy and then make it so probably only left 10 of the recommend 30mins to cool. When we got to one predictable feed id make the bottle before bed but she was 10 weeks and growth spurting so knew it'd be needed quickly.
Makes you feel so much better once youve made a decision doesnt it?
My HV told me the most important thing is to add powder to v hot water to kill the bacteria. The official way is to boil a kettle of fresh water, leave to cool for 30 mins, put water in bottle, add powder, shake and cool under cold tap to right temp. However when you have a screaming child that takes forever so this is what i do.
P is on 4oz top ups so i put 3oz of boiled water in a sterilised bottle abd leave in cupboard.
When P needs a feed i boil a kettle and put 1oz of boiling water in new bottle.
Add a little of the cold sterile water to the 1oz.
Add powder and shake.
Top up with rest of cold sterile water.
So i am adding the powder to v hot but not boiling water but not having to wait for it to cool.
I then put a new 3oz of water in the spare bottle and return to cupboard for next time.
I take ready made cartons when i go out usually x
13/06/2013 at 07:50
Well I don't think there is a good answer as the "right" answer is to make up fresh every single bloomin' time.
My compromise was to make up all bottles for the day, rapidly chill them in ice water, then refrigerate. This is the method that the hospital used where I had E. When I went out I would put a bottle in one of those thermal cover things and take a readymade carton as backup. At night, would do the same although night feeds were BF for a long time.
You'll get a multitude of methods I suspect, do whatever works for you and be happy with the decision you have made x
13/06/2013 at 08:30
Like Ap I used to make up all bottles for the day and store them in the fridge, which I don't think is within the guidelines but it worked for both of mine. Its not practical to make up every bottle fresh.
For a night I just used to bung it in the microwave to heat it.
Going out I would take a made up bottle out with me and heat in a jug of water or if I knew there was going to no facilities for that I would take a flask with boiling water in it and a jug so I could heat it up wherever we were.
My sister is currently FFing her daughter and she puts the water in the bottles then adds the powder when the baby needs it.
13/06/2013 at 08:33
I did what angel pie did re: making a days worth and chilling. At night I could just put it in the warmer. Out and about I use ready made cartons. Having a few in at 60p was far easier than fannying around when out. As he's on special formula now I can't use cartons, so I have a flask of boiling water, bottles half liked with cooled boiled water and formula dispenser pots. If I need 120ml I as 60ml hot water to 60ml cool then its ready to drink. Or I take a full bottle of cooled boiled water and heat up in a jug of hot water and add powder
13/06/2013 at 09:03
Thanks ladies.. The cartons are great but obviously they have more in them than he needs in one feed at the mo so I would then end up throwing them away...
Making up bottles in one go seems much easier and would help with organisation hey.. Just frowned upon by the midwife...
I guess it's the same as anything.. Extra cautious to cover all those who wouldn't sterilise properly maybe..
13/06/2013 at 09:15
I think that's the case. The nurse in special care made up 24 hours worth as essentially they're still being made with boiling water, its safe.
13/06/2013 at 09:16
Eta she didn't do that for babies on the ward. I meant for her own!
13/06/2013 at 09:38
I normally make them when needed but for night (although he's stopped feeding at night I always make one just in case) I make with boiling water then put in the fridge. It gets much easier when they have a feeding pattern as you can make them about half hour before, bung in the fridge and its the right temperature when they want it
13/06/2013 at 10:39
We used to fill bottles with cooled boiled water and seal then leave at room temp and add formula when needed. We never reheated or anything he had all milk at room temp. When out and about it was same principle as water was in bottles just add formula when needed. And bedtime the same, do x amount of bottles leave on side to cool and add formula when you need.
13/06/2013 at 10:56
Even easier belle... Thank you. I'm definately going to so some sort of pre making!
13/06/2013 at 11:04
I was another make a day in advance and pop in fridge to chill...warming as needed. We had to do it this way as O also had to have colief in his bottles for colic, and this methosd was 1 of 2 specified on it's instructions. Glad you made your decision and are feeling better...bf doesn't work for everyone (me included)...feeding Henry is all that matters x
13/06/2013 at 11:06
Cheers coco I do feel much better. It suits my need to be organised too. As soon as I had told the mw my decision I felt so much better.. Thanks for your support xx
13/06/2013 at 11:25
Sorry to hijack - for those who warm when needed, how do you do the warming?
13/06/2013 at 12:04
I would pour boiling water into my bottles and then seal them so they're still sterile. When needed, I would warm a bottle up using the microwave (removing the teat), add the powder and give it a good shake to remove any hotspots (which is why using the microwave is a no no) and them serve. I always check my bottles before giving to L to make sure it's ok. I had to use this method with O as he would go from happy to hungry in about 3 secs and would scream the house down!
13/06/2013 at 12:31
We did the same as Belle with Zoe
13/06/2013 at 13:46
I used to do the same as Belle. Just offered feeds at room temperature. We were mix feeding and she was never bothered about the difference in flavour or temperature between the formula and breast milk. I had a cold water steriliser which keeps everything sterile for 24 hours.
To warm up a bottle - which we ended up having to do when we switched to cows milk - we would put the bottle in a jug containing warm water to warm it up. Friend of mine used to bring a flask of warm water to do this when out and about. One friend got refused a jug of warm water in one of the coffee chains because she wanted to warm the milk up - in case she overheated it. She was furious at the time.
13/06/2013 at 20:40
I did what belle did. It was so easy. If the water had cooled too much I would empty out 1oz and add in 1oz of boiled water and it was perfect.
I think I would do the same again.
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