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20/11/2013 at 12:43
H and I were discussing what you'd said last night and just out of interest, what do you expect the kids to know/be able to do before starting reception? What's the basic and what would be above average iyswim? Not that we need to know for ages, but seeing as you're an inside lead I'd like to get ahead of the game with our August baby
20/11/2013 at 13:05
thought i'd chime in, though limited knowledge. My step daughter is a July baby, her mum would only allow her to go to nursery for the free 15 hours a week from the age of three. She struggled with Reception, and is still struggling now in year 2 if i'm honest. Some of the kids that were in her class could write their name and SD didnt even know the alphabet. she could count to 10 but that was it. I'm big on studying and education (only came on the scene when she was three and knew nothing about kids otherwise i would have helped her earlier) so I do a lot of work with her at home and shes getting there. Shes behind on her reading and maths though so we do lots of practicing of reading, handwriting and math sums... I'm pregnant at the moment and from going through it with her its a big eye opener to me for learning as soon as possible.
20/11/2013 at 14:17
I'm not Custard but my daughter is 6 so not long ago was in Reception. They actually don't expect them to know lots and lots of formal stuff before they start. My daughter recognised lots of letters, knew how to recognise her own name and could write her first name (although she wasn't technicially forming the letters correctly). She could also count and could recognise numbers written down and could write some of them herself. In Reception they didn't assume that they could read their own name (although some children could). There was a big focus on phonics and learning all the letter sounds and shapes together, then also learning how to form the letters correctly. They would have sessions on this every day.
I think its probably of more benefit to have a child who is able to do lots of the basic personal stuff themselves, which if you have a young in the year child they might still be learning:
Able to take their own clothes on and off.
Can put their shoes on and do them up without help.
Get their coat on and do it up.
Can use a knife and fork and can eat sitting down (by this I mean they're not trying to get up out of their chair every 2 seconds)
Able to go to the toilet on their own and wash their hands properly.
Being able to sit still and listen to instruction.
Being able to share and play with other children.
So although encouraging them to learn their numbers and letters is useful don't worry too much about it as they have plenty of time to learn when they are in school.
20/11/2013 at 14:20
Oh and we had a session in her school where they told us how to read a picture book to a child. Which basically shows they assume that some parents have no idea whatsoever.
Reading to your child as often as you can has a big impact in their ability to learn, apparently.
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20/11/2013 at 22:42
Thanks Custard! E already does 'ssssss' for snake as we have the Monkey Puzzle book thats his fave so he knows snake, lion and monkey and does the noises (so cute!). We also sing the alphabet song 'a is for apple, a a apple' when getting him changed or dressed as its the only thing that will stop him wriggling bizarrely. Cool, I'm glad we're already doing things that will be a big help later on
Oh and good call on the name in capitals thing as I would've thought capitals was easier for them so encouraged that! Good tip!
21/11/2013 at 14:10
Wow Custard, your school definitely seems to have higher expectations than Zoe's. She started Reception in September and could count to 10 and knew her sounds as had done them at nursery. She couldn't recognise a letter though and couldn't write her name. All we were prior to starting was to help them learn to get themselves dressed / undressed and go to the toilet by themselves.
21/11/2013 at 14:43
21/11/2013 at 15:45
e were told that being 'school ready' was more about self care skills like toileting and dressing and listening and tidying up, than academic skills.
not sure why wishful whispers wrote that it was a shame her step daughter was only allowed to go to pre school for 15 hrs from the age of 3, as that's what most children do, unless they are in private daycare.
21/11/2013 at 16:34
Reception is mostly about learning through play. So lots of craft stuff, etc. and rushing around and allowed to go outdoors a lot. And yes lots of children won't have had any more than the 15 hours free nursery time before they start school. I think its easy to worry too much and to spend time comparing but children learn at different paces with everything they do. And once they start school you suddenly see them doing things they've learnt with ease.
21/11/2013 at 18:28
In our school, as in every other I've ever known both as a parent and teacher, there is no expectation that the children will come with any academic skills. Most come knowing some colours, shapes and numbers but not all. The main things are as mentioned previously - able to dress and undress fairly independently, recognise their own name, use the toilet and wash hands independently and eat lunch, and able to ask for help as needed. The rest is really up to you. I'd be wary of teaching too many letter sounds etc before school though in case the school does a different scheme to you and it ends up confusing the child.
Definitely fine as well to just use the 15 hours of funded preschool - in fact, no harm in using less if you choose. Most children do not have more, and if they do it is for childcare purposes rather than to advance them educationally.
21/11/2013 at 18:39
Sorry to derail a bit but I'm just wondering, I'm in Scotland so we don't have "reception year", kids go into primary 1 at age 4.5-5.5. What age are reception kids? Just interested as M at 3.5 can do a lot of what is mentioned and I thought she was a little behind her peers in writing her name etc - I'm not a pushy mum, just an observation from nursery where they "sign themselves in" and she can manage some letters of her name (in wrong order) and others can write their names ok
21/11/2013 at 18:55
In England, children start Reception the September after they turn 4, so the oldest are 5, and the youngest are just turned 4.
21/11/2013 at 19:04
Thanks Margot. Sounds similar to our primary 1 then except cut off is end of Feb here and end of august in England.
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