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05/04/2013 at 11:49
Does it really make much of a difference?
For a few weeks now I've been giving O a bottle of formula maybe once a day or every other day, never more than one bottle a day unless I can really help it. Feeding when out and about was stressing me out and I just can't get any milk out via expressing unless I 'miss' a feed which I obviously can't do unless I give him formula (he has both sides at every feed). I just don't feel like I fill him up anymore, I know you're supposed to leave him and let him suckle but he;s too impatient for that, as soon as my milk slows down after the initial let down he screams and then I have to change boobs.
The one bottle every now and then worked ok for a few weeks and I tried to express whenever I gave formula and then I'd just top that milk up with formula if I couldn't ge enough. But now it;s getting worse. I've fed him every couple of hours since 6am but it's just not satisfying him so I've just given him a bottle (4oz formula, 3oz BM from last night) but now that he's had this bottle so early I know I'll have to give him another later.
I'm hoping Fenugreek may help a little? The way it's going I can see we're going to drift into more and more bottles and it will gradually become FF. I'm ok with this now, it;s been 4 months which is more than I ever thought I'd do but I would like to carry on if I could.
I have Fenugreek capsules from Holland & Barrett, 610mg but it doesn't say how much/when to take them?
05/04/2013 at 11:53
Do you have a good GP? COuld be worth a chat with them.
If fenugreek doesn't help (which I have heard it is supposed to), domperidone is prescribed for women who are breastfeeding but not making quite enough milk. That could help break the cycle.
05/04/2013 at 12:02
Do you know I never even thought about the GP, one of them is quite helpful so I might book an appointment for Monday. Thank you. I did mention it at the BF group I go to but they just kind of shrugged it off and told me to leave him to nurse. What they don't understand is that when you have an impatient and hungry baby who is screaming it's not that easy.
Whenever I give him formula and don't express he feeds really well on his next feed as my boobs are more full. I've just googled for the amount I should be taking and have taken 2 capsules - they are vile!
05/04/2013 at 12:09
Is it worth seeing a BFC to see if there's anything you can do yourself? Also have a look at Kellymom to see if there's any advice. That's a shame the BF group were a bit dismissive of it, I'd have thought they'd be a bit more supportive and helpful.
Definitely worth speaking with a GP too to see if you can get something on prescription - I've heard they can be costly especially if you're using them long term.
05/04/2013 at 12:11
A gp won't prescribe domperidone straight away. Fenugreek is really good, can get from holland and Barrett, I totally noticed a difference. Also increase your fluid intake and eat things like porridge etc as the oats help too. Also look up switch nursing on google as basically you latch lo one, wait till the sucks slow down then move to the other side and do the same and that tends to increase supply. Domperidone probably wouldn't be given first off iyswim x
05/04/2013 at 12:35
I used Fenugreek and found it did make a bit of difference. The H&B ones I have say you can take one or two capsules three times a day. Oats are also great for milk supply. I made a tray of flapjacks, ate them over a weekend and managed to pump 10oz in 10 minutes!
05/04/2013 at 12:43
Flapjacks have got to be worth a try! I love flapjacks. Even their name makes me smile!
I wasn't sure when/if domperidone might be prescribed, but it is always good to know there are options if the fenugreek and flapjacks aren't quite enough.
05/04/2013 at 12:45
Thanks for the help. I'll go and see the GP just so that it's on record, I could do with seeing them about something else too. That way if I do need to try the prescribed meds at least they'll see it's been going on for a while.
Just had a quick browse at switch nursing, that's pretty much what we do now. He's a lazy little bugger and just wants constant flow like with a bottle. Haven't had breakfast yet (tut tut) so will have some porridge. Might get baking some flapjacks too as you've all prescribed them :)
05/04/2013 at 13:03
Domperidone iirc isn't actually licensed for increasing breast milk supply so GPS can be funny about prescribing it so def workers having a chat to see how the land lies
05/04/2013 at 13:14
I took Fenugreek multiple times daily while expressing full time, plus motilium (also known as domperidome). I bought motilium over the counter at the pharmacy for a month, don't tell them it's for milk production though, and you may need to rotate a few pharmacies as technically the milk production is a 'side effect', just tell them it's for nausea and bloating after food and that you've had it before if they ask. Once I knew it worked I went to the Dr and told her that I'd been taking it with success and asked her to prescribe it which she did.
I took 2 x Fenugreek tablets and 1 (or was it 2?) tablets of motilium - 3 x per day
My GP prescribed the motilium and I bought the Fenugreek at holland and barrett
As for whether it worked, I can honestly say I got a LOT less milk after missing a dose so for me yes it was great.
05/04/2013 at 14:43
my hollannd and barret fenugreek says 2 three times a day preferably after meals,
Another vote for flapjack and porridge here having porriage regularly for breakfast def helps in my opinion, but also mak sure you are eating and drinking well,
might it also be worth offering little one boob before he gets hungry? Disco was a frequent feeder sometimes every 3 hours sometimes every 2 in the day sometimes less. I paniced I was ;etting him feed to often and he should be going 3 or more hours between feeds (at around 5 months) and while he could wait it out I founf he was less satisfied after a feed went back to feeding more on demand and boobs def got fuller and he was happier.
Also I am really shocked yourBF group wasn't more supportive,
06/04/2013 at 13:32
Well I've had porridge for breakfast and am on a baking mission today. Isn't there an infamous hitched flapjack recipe floating around somewhere?
06/04/2013 at 14:17
Not sure if there is a Hitched recipe, but I use the one at the bottom of this article: www.guardian.co.uk/.../how-to-cook-perfect-flapjacks
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