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05/05/2014 at 11:11
I'm so clueless! I didn't express at all with my son, and Agnes isn't yet two weeks so I'm still finding my feet. Would love some help on expressing...
Agnes took to BFing well. Tiny weight loss at day 5 and day 10 she'd gone from 7lb 15oz birth weight to 8lb 4oz. She feeds in the day, cluster feeds towards her bedtime, then sleeps 2am(ish) to 10am(ish) and broadly that's been her routine since day 2 or 3.
I'm on mat leave but my 10 Keeping In Touch days start this week. Meant to be doing 2 days a week but I'll be doing 2 mornings in the office and the other working day at home in chunks here and there. I need to go in Weds & Thurs. probably 8am-noon. I'll miss one feed, but need to express enough for two, to be on the safe side.
Last night I tried my electric pump. Got 2oz from my 'good' boob while Agnes fed on the other side. Immediately when she was done (most feeds are both boobs) hubby gave her the 2oz in a bottle and it went well. We've agreed I'll not do any bottle feeds to TRY to minimise confusion.
I often feel I haven't got enough milk (I guess that's a typical concern) she's pulling off frustrated, or sometimes wants to go back on so soon after a feed that I wonder if I've enough.
My question: "How do I best manage to get together 2 feeds whilst keeping her fed?" Both mornings I can express before I leave for work but I don't know how much I'll get and don't want to leave her hungry! (Worst case scenario is that hubby drives her the ten mins to work and I feed her in the car, I've been feeding out and about and it doesn't worry me if we need to do that but obviously it's not what we want).
Sorry - I've rambled here but wanted to give context :)
05/05/2014 at 11:28
There was a Hitcher of old who I think went to 100% EBF, not out of choice her baby refused to BF. I think she took fenugreek supplements to up her supply and managed for quite some time - I found this old Hitched thread which might be of help www.hitched.co.uk/.../351406.aspx plus eating startchy food - flapjacks were my saviour.
Echo what they say on there about speaking to a counsellor, they will be best placed to advise.
05/05/2014 at 11:41
I'd been all over Kellymom and not found that particular page (I'm a doofus) thanks! And good Hitched thread, I'd never heard of fenugreek. I'm eating flapjacks but need to get some porridge in. I've been keeping my food and water intake up but not really being smart about what my diet is (mostly cake I imagine...). Thanks :)
05/05/2014 at 12:53
05/05/2014 at 15:27
Looking at your feeding routine, there is a long period from 2 to 10am. Whilst i appreciate you will need your sleep, i would try to express around 6am to break up the long period and it looks like the only time you get a break from feeding to be able to do it. When in work, try to express at the time she would normally feed (if possible) and you will then have that milk extra. I almost exclusively expressed for over 4 months, but it was expressing while i was bf that was the most difficult as she seemed to be feeding all the time!
05/05/2014 at 19:31
I'd double express affter she feeds and at every feed. It's what I did morning and night to increase my supply.
05/05/2014 at 20:21
Thank you :)
Without seeing the thread (promise! I was out at the beach!) I had decided to get up early each day and express for a full feed, as you suggested LWO, and I also expressed after the most recent feed, TP. Sadly I got less than an ounce between the two but it seems a good routine to try. First expressing sessions had me in tears, and seeing her have a bottle (of breast milk) made me cry (silly, I know), but I'm sure it should be doable. First two weeks I'm only at work 2 x 4hrs so hopefully I can build the supply before I have to be there the whole day. Going back to work doesn't worry me, I'm looking forward to it a bit, but not being available to feed her, myself, I have found upsetting :)
Porkchop - my rubbish boob is barely responding to the pump so far so I may need to try that, thanks.
05/05/2014 at 20:45
That's normal to not get much. You haven't got bfing fully expressed until week 6 so your supply is still adjusting. Plus it's supply on demand so you shouldn't really get much more from pumping initially but the more you pump the more your body will make. I was pumping and getting nothing out but it did eventually pay off. I expressed every 3 hours for months and then stopped the night expressing at some point.
05/05/2014 at 21:00
I never got much pumping but fenugreek massively helped. My supply was always shaky due to bf not getting off to a good start so over Christmas, I decided to do everything in my power to increase supply - ate lots of oats, drank plenty of water, pumped as often as I could and took fenugreek and it really helped.
I have just found my bottle of fenugreek capsules in the cupboard - I can send them to you if you want them? Just pm me x
05/05/2014 at 21:38
Fenugreek was a massive help to me, boosted my milk a lot. I wish I'd found it earlier than 10weeks. I had to take a lot though about 12-15 a day, I still take them now and again.
Also I pump in the night to get an expressed bottle sometimes I get 2oz sometimes 4oz, I get most my milk at 4am. My LO was introduced a bottle at 2weeks due to high weightloss, I had to give formula top ups. She's had no confusion over bottle or boob. I still hate every time R has a bottle even though it's only breast milk now.
Good luck with your expressing :)
05/05/2014 at 22:45
Don't be disheartened by the amount. Your baby will only be taking small amounts at her age anyway. If i went a few hours before a feed i found that i got more off, but if after a feed it was hardly anything, but that milk was the fatty hind milk, so every little counts. I can highly recommend a double, electric pump if you can get one. It saved me so much time, although must have been hysterical to watch! Good luck with the first kit day. X
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