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21/01/2014 at 17:12
Until recently we were on aptimal1 so just took a ready made carton and sterilised bottle if we were going out anywhere but were now using aptimal comfort which doesn't come in ready made. I've bought a little flask and was planning to do the following -
Take a sterilised bottle and formula (I have one of the dispensers that holds 3 seperate feeds worth)
Take a flask of boiled water
Take a bottle with a measure of cooled boiled water in. I'll need to have a trial with the right mix of hot and cold water to get to drinking temp but assuming it was half and half then for a 6oz bottle I would then pour 3oz of hot water from the flask into the empty sterilised bottle, add the 6 scoops of formula (already measured out in the dispenser), mix up, then add the 3oz (already measured) of cool boiled water from the other bottle.
Two questions, is the above ok to kill bacteria etc and in terms of the water in the flask, do I boil the kettle, leave for 30mins and then put that water in the flask or given that the temp of the water will drop even in the flask, do I put the water in the flask just after boiled? (so don't leave the 30mins?)
21/01/2014 at 17:15
I'm no expert but I would just boil it and pour out into the flask! I would say it's enough to kill the bacteria, if your worries you could add the formula to just the hot water from the flas, shake and then add cooled boiled water.
21/01/2014 at 17:35
As long as the water in the flask is above 70 degrees then it will kill the bacteria. Its a great plan, and one I intended on doing but its a faff. What I do (for all bottles) is put in 5 1/2 oz of cooled boiled watere into steralised bottles, then when she needs a bottle I boil some fresh and top it up to 8oz. Not strictly within guidelines but I find it close enough. You'll find half and half is too hot, I do 2/3 cooled to 1/3 boiling. I've never had a problem getting hot water in a cafe.
21/01/2014 at 17:53
Missdeedee this confuses me too! We've had S on ready made SMA 1st at nights (to avoid having to go make one fresh - I'm such a lazy mummy) but we're putting him onto SMA Comfort today - just making his first bottle of it now. But like the Aptamil it doesn't come in ready made. So at nights, and away from home, we need a plan.
I can't help thinking that there must be an easier way than the method you've mentioned above, but I can't think what it might be. There are so many conflicting rules about pre-preparing bottles :-(
21/01/2014 at 17:55
Porkchop, when do you add the formula, - is it to the cooled boiled water, or when you add the hot water?
21/01/2014 at 17:56
Thanks noodle, I do plan to just add the powder to the boiling water and then add the cool water to bring the temp down.
Porkchop we use the perfect prep machine at home so I just push a button and don't have to worry about the water so this is all foreign to me! I'll try 4oz cold and 2oz hot as a trial and take it from there. I assume the water must still be above 70degrees even after sitting in the kettle for 3mins so I might leave the kettle 15mins before filling the flask and then it should still be over 70 when I use it!
21/01/2014 at 18:02
Penny, I add the formula when I've added the hot. I guess you could do it the other way and store the cooled boiled water in another steralised container! The way I look at it is that to do it the 'proper' way isnt really practical unless you want a screaming baby for over half an hour, so I do it the best and closest way I can. Now shes older and pretty much feeds like clockwork I could probably make them up properly each time, but only when at home, there still needs to be some method for when out and about.
21/01/2014 at 18:21
Ok thanks Porkchop that makes sense. And no I don't want a screaming baby for over half an hour (who does?! LOL) so like you I just want to find the best and most practical alternative.
The rules seem to change so much that its hard to know what's 'correct'. I did ask my health visitor but she refused to give any advice on pre-prepared feeds, just told me to follow the advice on the tin.
21/01/2014 at 18:29
I used to...and still do, put the water in the bottle, take the milk in a separate container and a flask of hot water to reheat the water if it cools down too much.
21/01/2014 at 21:49
When Zoe was on Enfamil AR it said to make it with room temperature water, do the other reflux formulas not say the same ?
Anyway, we used to put the boiled water into the bottles at the start of the day and add powder as and when needed. I have been using the ready made cartons up to now but now Orla is 6mths I figure she's a bit more robust and am going back to my old way when out and about. I have the TT PP machine for at home.
As an aside, I have just been in the USA and had to buy some American formula (had a bit of an accident with the tub of formula we took over resulting in it all over the floor) and they just say to use tap water, not boiled and not hot. I was quite reassured by this as figured in a country with such a culture of litigation they would be quite cautious. It does say to see your paediatrician on advice on how to make up bottles for premature or immuno compromised babies though.
21/01/2014 at 22:42
I used to do as noodle described. It was a faff, but we couldn't use ready made due to having prescription formula and it was the quickest method.
22/01/2014 at 08:03
We used to take a flask of hot water out with us to pour into a sterilised bottle when required. After adding the milk powder we stood it in a jug/bowl of cold water to bring the temperature down - depending on where we were, we'd ask for a jug/bowl of cold water or if out for the day at parks for instance, I would actually keep a bottle of cold water in the car or buggy and pour that into the lid of the flask to stand the bottle in.
I was far too paranoid to add the milk to cooler water so always made it with the hot water. F rarely screamed waiting for his milk as I got to learn when he'd be hungry and have the milk pretty much ready to give him.
22/01/2014 at 08:13
S has always taken it at room temp so I make up the boiling water the night before and add powder when I need it (whether in or out). Completely not within the guidelines but it's so easy and shes fine. If she liked it warm I'd do half and half and take a flask.
22/01/2014 at 08:24
My change bag has an insulated pocket which I find very handy for this situation. When out and about I always leave with a bottle in there (most likely that's cold from being made up hours ago and it's been in the fridge) but then when she feeds her. I always go to a café/pub or even McDonalds and have never been refused hot water yet. Out comes the presterilised bottle and a tub of formula. I then make the bottle up fresh, whack it into the insulated pocket and voila next feed is all good to go for me.
22/01/2014 at 15:11
I've just bought a flask and am going to try out some of your methods. S actually doesn't mind his milk at room temp, I think he got used to it in hospital. Plus he's so lazy that a cold bottle is inevitable by the end of each feed! But it would be nice to be able to make it 'properly', and warm, for him anyway.
23/01/2014 at 01:59
We were out all day today and I took a flask of boiled water, two bottles (one empty and one with 4oz of cool boiled water) and a measure of formula. I poured 2oz of hot water from the flask into the empty bottle, poured in the formula and mixed up, then poured in the 4oz of cool water and shook up. Bottle was perfect temp, just slightly warm and I was happy we hand 'killed' any bacteria in the formula. Took less than a minute to make up.
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