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20/08/2013 at 09:49
F wouldn't latch on enough to bf but nipple shields turned everything around and he has been exclusively bf ever since but I'd love to wean him off them but after weeks of trying I'm not getting any further. I've had my local bf support out at the house and he flipping latches when they are here but that's the only time. I'd really like to seek other advice but I don't know where to look and reading stuff doesn't help me, I know what to do, so it's practical assistance we need. Any ideas of where I can turn next?
If I can't get him to latch on has anyone used shields long term, was your supply ok? My fear is my supply will be affected without direct stimulation so I'm expressing as well and take domperidone.
i desperately want off the shields but to have reestablished feeding after quitting twice I'm pleased we have got this far.
Any advice or experience welcomed x
20/08/2013 at 10:10
Spikeygoodness managed to wean her LO off of shields, might be worth a shout out for her?
I think you've done amazingly well TP!
20/08/2013 at 10:40
Thanks Stripey. It's been a long hard journey but I love bfing so was extremely determined and I think the more barriers I faced the more determined I became. F doesn't react well to formula either so it was another reason not to give in. Well look out for spikey x
21/08/2013 at 09:06
21/08/2013 at 19:22
I weaned Flynn off them when he was 13 weeks. It was 8 years ago so I can't remember exactly how I did it but I think I'd initially latch him on with them and then take them off after a few minutes. I didn't try every feed as I didn't want to stress him and it took longer to stop using them in the night, I think as we were both tired! It took me a while, I first tried when he was 7 weeks and he was having none of it but he did get the hang eventually and we fed until he was nearly 2 without them. Good luck!
21/08/2013 at 20:23
We used shields for 12 weeks, then managed to wean off them. I kept trying him without, and he'd occasionally latch, but not remotely consistently, it'd be days or weeks between doing it. Then one day he just did, and kept doing so, so we didn't get the shields back out. It felt a bit like starting from scratch in terms of him relearning, there was pain and bleeding, but i was not not not using the shields again having taken 12 weeks to get off them! And after a couple of weeks shield free his technique had improved and my nipples healed and we werer away. I know that's not spectacularly helpful, as it's not a magic solution, but hopefully if you persist in trying one day he'll get it. It sounds positive if he latches when bf support are there, as at least you know he can. Are there any weekly bf groups near you you can go to for more regular support?
Like you I stressed hugely about supply issues from using the shields. I was told to express as often as possible, but he cried most of the time until 4 months, and only ever had daytime naps on me, so unless H was home I couldn't get near a pump as my hands were full of baby. In additon he fed every 60-90mins, and I felt like if I pumped I was stealing his next feed, so didn't always want to. I'm not sure if the hourly feeding anything to do with the shields as he fed hourly after we were off them too, I suspect it had more to do with his reflux and vomiting up much of his feeds. To keep my mind at rest about the supply the health visitor came every week and weighed him, I figured as long as he was tracking his curve my supply must be meeting his needs, and he always was. I've heard conflicting advice about shields affecting supply, new silicone shields are a lot thinner and lighter than old style latex ones, and allow more stimulation I think. I never felt like my supply was stunning, I never leaked and it would take me ages to pump anything, but as long as he was getting enough that doesn't really matter, and if he was tracking his curve I guess he must have been.
Sorry that's not more helpful, I wish I could say "we did x" and you could do the same. You're doing fabulously though, I know how hard it is. X
21/08/2013 at 20:32
Hi we used them for 7 weeks until S had her tongue tie sorted. We weaned off over a couple of weeks by just keep trying and taking them off midway when she had made my nipple a better shape to latch on. One day I realised we hadn't used them and that was that.
Agree no problems with supply here in fact I was drowning her!! We used the Medela ones as they are so thin so not much in the way.
Keep trying you will get there he just has to relearn everything bless him x
21/08/2013 at 20:57
You've all made me cry just by being so nice, thanks for sharing your experiences.
Spikey you sound EXACTLY like me. F takes an hour, sometimes longer, but it doesn't mean his next feed is any further away as its generally 3 hours between the start of feeds no matter how long the last one took. It feels wrong to express when he will want fed again in another 90 mins. He is on the 75th centile and was born on the 50th so I'm obviously doing something right.
I go to a local bf group but its pretty crap as the hv's that run it can't suggest anything really and the community mums have been great but again can't suggest anything else.
F does have a TT but it was too thick to be snipped and the hospital (children's hospital) and health visitor said that it shouldn't cause any latching problems. I've never had any pain at all and nipple isn't misshapen either but when he latches on he losses suction, air gets on and then he slips off.
I would love to be comfortable feeding outwith the house but with the shields I find it near impossible to fed discretely.
Alaina F is now 12 weeks so I thought I had left it too long so I'm pleased to hear that.
VE it's the medela ones I have and I don't feel my supply is an issue as he seems to struggle to swallow it all but the HV drummed into me that my supply would be affected.
I will keep trying to latch him on after knowing you've all done it, thank you cx
21/08/2013 at 22:00
I was warned they could affect my supply and he did feed very regularly - 2 hourly at most, but he carried on doing that until he started solids so I don't think they made any difference. I never expressed and he gained weight well so I figured everything was fine.
Sounds like you're doing fab though x
22/08/2013 at 09:35
I would say ignore the HV if you feel it is going well. Better to use shields than have to give up if you don't want to.
I had the pink ladies who discouraged me from using them and when I said it was this or give up they said well it looks like you've made your decision... Not my fault it took 7 weeks to sort her tt!!
I have found bf support locally rubbish. There is a new meeting starting on the 4th Sept and I will be going to hopefully help new mums with just a bit of moral support.
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