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13/05/2013 at 07:42
Starting the big pram research! I have been told that list of things that I *think* I want isn't necessary, by 3 people that already have children, so I'd like a wider view.
The things they deem unnecessary are carrycots and reversible pushchairs - I really like the idea of being able to have parent-facing or world-facing seating options, and my thoughts on the carrycot is it's somewhere safe for them to nap when out and about - I have horses so will take the baby to the yard twice a day most days, and sometimes for a couple of hours (or more!) so it makes sense that they are somewhere safe for sleeping and up off the ground while I do my jobs. I'm also thinking we'll use it a lot for downstairs sleeping and occasionally for overnight sleeping if we go away for a night or two.
Other features I'd like are VERY easy to collapse (1 handed ideal but not essential), sturdy but lightweight, easy to move. The smaller it folds up the better but we do both have fairly large boots. I have about 5 on the shortlist so far but that's mainly through internet research - we need to go and handle them all. What do you recommend - bound to be loads I haven't looked into yet!
13/05/2013 at 08:12
I didn't have a carry cot, I just used a cosy toes as I felt that babies were in the carrycot for such a short space of time. Being able to have a parent-facing pram was a must as you can check on them easily and 'chat' with them (good for speech development) - I missed this when I was using the forward-facing double, so I'm now using my old single (Britax B-Smart 4) pram with O on a buggy board. Other that may fit your needs is the Babystyle Oyster (I wish the double version came out in time as I would've bought it), iCandy and the Bugaboo - the latter two have different versions.
I found www.bestbuggy.co.uk invaluable for my research.
13/05/2013 at 08:16
I adore our Icandy peach. My r equipments were similar though I completely disagree with anyone who says a carrycot isn't an essential. We've had so much use out of ours. She's slept downstairs in it and also when we've been away. It's lovely to walk around with as E isn't restricted and has lots of space. I also think it's important that the carrycot is suited to overnight sleeping, most aren't so you have to search, but e would sleep 6 hours in the early days in it sometimes so that was key here. What do those saying it's not required recon you should use instead? My sil insists the car seat but they can only be in them 2-3 hours abd as I say we use our pram for much longer periods..
Our pram isn't that light to lift in and out of the car but you have to push it to appreciate it. It's so easy and light. I can easily push E with one hand and once I'd pushed it, nothing else matched up. It's also really easy to put up and down. And, looks fab! Haha
13/05/2013 at 08:25
I have the Baby City Jogger Mini which seems to fit your criteria of lightweight (ish) easy to fold as all you do is grab the handle in the middle of the pushchair and it folds up itself. Very easy to push as steer, essential for me as I have an older child whose hand I need to hold for crossing roads and I can easily push the pram one handed. I bought the carrycot that goes with it which is nice and snug and easy to put on and off. I don't think it's recommended for overnight sleeping though.
I had a maclaren xlr with N which was also great but as he got older the little toad would put his feet on the footrest but on top of the wheels so I would just halt in the middle of te street so this time I had to have one that has a sturdy footrest that he can't reach the wheels with!
Eta- LM I didn't have a carrycot with N and managed just fine as it was suitable from birth, I would just wheel him in to the front room if he was sleeping.
13/05/2013 at 08:45
Aw yes that's how you cope I guess LB? A lay flat pram is the other option. I think there is a silver cross that lays flat and you can add a cocoon during the winter.
13/05/2013 at 08:55
I have a bugaboo cameleon and love it. I really like the carrycot on it and Ben is still in it now at 20 weeks. It's easy to steer, easy to fold. I think the bugaboo bee maybe a good choice for you as it's lightweight and compact but it has a cocoon instead of a carrycot. On phone at the mo, but will happily answer any questions if you have them!
13/05/2013 at 09:03
We had a second hand system we used at first and then I just used my zia from about 7 weeks. My boy was long and grew out of Moses and the pram top bit very quickly anyway. Tbh I never worried about Ben parent facing as he was too interested in the world around him ( at baby massage he preferred being the wrong way round so he could see the room!)
If you are planning on having two, then maybe invest in something you can double up later.
13/05/2013 at 09:08
Just to add E is 91st percentile for height and now 18 weeks. We'll probably manage till 6 months in the carrycot. But tbh by the time she's was 6 weeks id used it so much it'd been worth the investment.
13/05/2013 at 09:11
With regards to your horses do you need an 'off road' pram? This was my biggest requirements and on Hollywoods rec I looked at and loved a mutsy. They're the range rovers of the pram world! I have an urban rider but the 4rider is even lighter and compact. And they are so unusual looking and beautiful imo
13/05/2013 at 09:40
When I was pregnant with Zoe I had a list of requirements from a pram and actually they haven't changed at all. We did switch to a stroller at around 2.5 yrs old but tbh I think that is quite normal, or around that point people are having a second child and moving the eldest on to a buggyboard. Mpy requirements are / were :-
parent facing option in both pushchair and pram mode
carrycot (this is simply from an aesthetic point of view for me although was very useful for naps, and also given Zoe was a winter baby it seemed cozier)
I could fold it (we initially wanted a bugaboo chameleon but I couldn't fold it)
one piece fold
bar handle rather than two seperate handles (again personal preference for me)
13/05/2013 at 09:42
Bugaboo Bee, I love mine!
Collapses in one click, none of this faffing around taking the wheels off etc. parent and rear faces, you just turn it around. It's lightweight, seat and back extends for when they grow. Basket is a good size.
13/05/2013 at 10:24
We have the baby style oyster which meets all your requirments. Pushchair is can face towards or away from you, it is pretty light you can unfold it with one hand (H does regulary and was even asked when out what pram it was as he made it look so easy). It fits with a maxicosi car seat with adapters no problem and I believe it also works with the brittax and I think they may do their own carseat as well now although not sure on that point.
We had the carry cot as used it downstiars for naps as well as out and about. I think the oyster carrycot is generous and it lasted us up to 6 months.
We have used it on pebbly and sandybeaches with no trouble and I also used it for parkfit with out a problem. the added bonus is it is cheaper than the i candy (I really wanted the strawberry but when I realised I cand get 2 oysters for 1 strawberry I couldn't bring myself to spend they money also means we can gt a more expensieve stroller now now holidays).
Also you can choose your colour pack with it (this really appealed to me)
13/05/2013 at 10:34
I have the M&P Sola which does everything you mentioned. You can get a carrycot for it, though I didn't bother as the pushchair seat is a true lay flat, so suitable from birth. We also had a Moses basket at home so I couldn't see how a carrycot would be of much use to us there. I was also put off by the space the carrycot would take up in the boot of the car!
13/05/2013 at 11:01
For me, a carrycot and rearfacing seat *were* essentials. All of my boys have been in carrycots for 5-6.5 months, I love them! I recommend the Bugaboo Cameleon or Baby Jogger City Versa (with separate carrycot). I also have a Bug Bee but it lives in my car and is rubbish over rough ground so might not be suitable for you, I couldn't really imagine a newborn in it tbh but that's because I didn't use it until he was 8 months!
13/05/2013 at 11:24
Babystyle Oyster. Ticks all your boxes. I hadit back in 2009 and it's very very popular now. Great pram!
13/05/2013 at 12:30
Also a vote for the oyster we love it although got less use out of carrycot as my baby is so nosy he doesn't want to lay flat it there when out. He lasted 3 months.
So easy to fold, lightweight and parent / rear facing. Plus of looks fab :)
13/05/2013 at 12:45
I'm liking all the recs about the Oyster as this is currently in my parents loft waiting to be used for this baby. Again my must haves were carrycot and parent facing!
13/05/2013 at 12:48
We didn't have a carrycot as I specifically didn't want to have to buy one and then have to find somewhere to store it once they grow out of it.
We had the surf which had a wedge thing to make it lie flat and be suitable from birth.
But if you are going to be outdoors for long periods with your horse, and its going to be born at the start of winter perhaps a carry cot would be good for you to protect them from the elements.
Parent facing for me is a must. I can't understand anyone who says its not needed.
W is 17 months and still faces me. She can still see everything but means I can talk to her as we walk rather than her siting there in silence. I'm currently looking into doubles for when our second arrives and know she will have to be be forward facing then so the other day I turned her round in the surf to go for a walk forward facing to see what it was like. I hated it and stopped halfway to turn it back around!
I think everyone's criteria is different. What is unnecessary for one is a must have for another. People can give you advice and say what they found useful but I don't think people should be telling you what you don't need as their circumstances and lifestyle will be different. Go and try them all out, do lots of research online, look at everyone else's pushchairs when you are out and about. Don't rush into buying one as if you get the right one it will last you until they can walk
13/05/2013 at 18:04
Well one excellent thing to come out of this thread is that my short-list features many of the prams you have all recommended!
On the shortlist we have:
M&P Sola and Zoom (H prefers the Zoom, I prefer the Sola)
Although so far we've only seen the M&P ones in the flesh - its a weekend job to try and find the others in a shop to play with. I have heard the chameleon can be a little heavy and unweildy so the others are perhaps slightly higher on the list, but we need to just 'have a go' with them all I think.
Missus S I'll look into those, thank you! We're pretty lucky with our yard that most is surfaced well, and I'm hoping that I can have the baby in a sling for actual trips to the field (especially if turning out or bringing in - I wouldn't want to risk a pram being crashed into by a spooked horse but am fortunately good at keeping myself well out of the way so would feel a baby would be much safer attached to me than pushed in front of me) so off-road may not be a necessity, but OTOH next Spring / Summer once the horses out living out 24/7 it would be useful to be able to wheel the baby down there. It's not far, but it is quite rough.
13/05/2013 at 19:14
I have the iCandy peach. It does parent facing, it has big chunky non-puncturable tyres (essential for yard). I did find it heavy when we first had it tho. I don't know- maybe I was just a weakling post-birth? I have to say I haven't used it much - because I love the slings so much - although now I have queasyiness all day long, I'm finding I'm using pushchair more+more.
It does 'upgrade' to a double but it looks sooo massive, I don't want to! We are planning to keep it tho and have small one in sling and toddler in pushchair (or she can walk!)
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