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10/06/2013 at 17:00
Apologies for MD absence, I usually lurked on OT and am not ready to TTC so not a regular contributer here.
I can't really find the answers anywhere so have asked my union rep, but realised some of you lovely MD ladies may have already had a similar situation. She is taking ages to get back to me on my questions and I am feeling really up in the air about everything.
I start an additional role in Sept (will still be full time teacher but with Head of House responsibility points, it's like a Head of Year). But the HoH job will be on a temporary contract. All the new roles being introduced to our school are temporary. 2 people have moved upwards into 12 month temp roles that have been created, so myself and the other teacher replacing them are also on temp contracts. However the new Head has told me I would be permanent. I asked for it in writing and have only been named as temp on my letter and the announcement, so I think his reassurance to me wasn't an official one whatsoever. The Head also told my other colleague that anything bar an apocalypse, we would be permanent as he wants the new job roles to stay.
In any case, I've been told that after 2 years on a temp contract, an employer has to then make your position permanent (or fire you I suppose.) Not sure how true that is so trying to find out. There is the off chance that at the end of the forthcoming academic year he will announce all positions are permanent, but I am assuming worst case scenario and he keeps us all on temporary. The other colleagues in this position are all either male or have completed their families so I can't really share my thoughts with any of them. Others I have spoken briefly to just advise me to 'wait and see' or say 'well in 2 years you will be permanent anyway' but in terms of TTC it isn't always as easy as that and 2 years could mean the difference between an easy TTC journey and a more complex one, I didn't want to leave it as far off as that to even begin.
I was thinking that around this time next year I might start preparing to TTC, now if the job was permanent and it was fully 'my' house I wouldn't have any concerns about my career. But if I did happen to become pregnant within 2014, that would only be Year 2 of the temporary contract. Does it 'interrupt' my 2 year progression towards it becoming permanent? I know they can't out and out discriminate against a pregnant woman, but am worried that hypothetically I could come back after ML as a regular classroom teacher and 'my' house have been given over to someone else - who would then no doubt have it on a temporary contract and begin their own progression towards it being permanent, because after all my own contract was only ever temporary.
Sorry if all this sounds jumbled, as I said I am very confused about it all! Thanks if anyone can offer any insights.
10/06/2013 at 17:16
I don't think you do automatically get made permanent after 2 yrs in a fixed term contract position. As far as I was aware you do get the same rights re redundancy as a permanent worker after 2 yrs but I don't think you actually get made permanent
10/06/2013 at 17:19
Here you go, it is 4 yrs on a fixed term contract that you automatically become permanent
Whilst on maternity leave you are still an employee and it is classed as continuous service so I can't see how they would say anything other than it being considered within the 4 yrs.
Just to add, it is 9 yrs since I worked in HR so coudl be a bit rusty.
10/06/2013 at 17:26
Hmm thanks jelly baby. I wonder where the 2 years came from that the person was telling me about. It looks like any ML would be classed as continous service but that's not to say if I decided to go off on ML the school wouldn't just end my temp contract at the end of whatever year it was and just hire someone else into the position anyway. I definitely can't wait 4 years to start TTC!
10/06/2013 at 17:54
I would guess they are getting confused with the 2 yrs service qualifying you for redundancy pay.
10/06/2013 at 18:30
From experience I'd imagine it will be a 2 year temporary contract which you may then have to reapply for after that at least have a "chat" to discuss your progression within the role. If you've been told it's a permanent position though I'd bring that up to make sure your contract expresses that. At the end of the day, if you do go on ML they are going to have to get someone to cover your head of house role as well as teaching role.
12/06/2013 at 10:55
Thanks everyone for the replies and info. I know they would be getting someone to cover my regular teaching post and HoH jobs but those would be advertised as maternity. It just concerns me that if I continue to be on a temp contract into he 2014-2015 academic year for the extra role they could end up re-advertising if they are thinking a new mother (possibly wanting PT hours or further ML) might be a bad bet.
I think I'm just going to have to keep my fingers crossed that at the end of the next academic year they are satisfied with how everyone has settled into the new roles and decide to make our positions permanent.
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