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23/06/2014 at 22:54
I'm 8+5 by dates. I had a private scan on Friday which found a small sac measuring only 5 weeks. Then an internal scan today which confirmed that there is a gestational sac, a yolk sac, and a little baby but no heartbeat. While some aspects were measuring 8.5 weeks, the baby was only measuring about 5 weeks. I've to go back in another week as legally they need to wait a week but there is basically no hope. If I don't miscarry naturally between now and Monday, I will be offered different options: 1) let nature take it's course, 2) medication to induce miscarriage, or 3) ERPC. I've basically already ruled out number one as the waiting is really killing me.
Does anyone have any experiences of 2 or 3 that they would mind sharing with me to help me make my decision? I'm leaning towards ERPC but really scared as I've never had an operation before!
I'm totally devastated.
23/06/2014 at 23:07
I'm so sorry macgirl. Im sending many hugs to you.xxx
I've had an erpc at 12 weeks and I had option 2 at 17 weeks. ( I was induced which is pretty much thr same)
In your situation I'd go for the erpc. I chose it as it meant it was over with quickly and I was asleep throughout. I could just wake up afterwards.
The op only took about 20 mins, I went into hospital that morning and was at home by 3pm that day. I bled for about 7-10 days afterwards, much like a heavy period.
Physically the recovery was pretty quick, emotionally is a different story. I didn't really suffer any bad pains from it and my period returned 5 weeks later.
Wit the 2nd option, there is no telling how long it might take- hopefully not long but for some people it doesn't work at all do they end up with an erpc anyway. Also I didn't want to be awake and conscious of what was going on.
I can answer any questions you've got about either procedure, I don't want to go into loads of detail if you don't want to know.
23/06/2014 at 23:11
Oh MG I'm so so sorry to read this.
I had a similar experience with my first pregnancy, I had some bleeding and had a scan at 7+4 and there was a sac measuring about 5 weeks. Like you I had to wait the week and my scan at 8+4 showed slight growth in the sac but no heartbeat. My scan was on the Friday and I has the ERPC on the Monday.
They had mentioned to me at both my scans that they could see bleeding but it hadn't come to anything over the course of the week and I knew for the whole week before the scan that it was over and by the following week I really wanted it over and done with, I couldn't bare the thought of having to wait any longer for something to happen.
The hospital were great and my H got to stay with me right up until I went to theatre and was there when I got back.
I didn't go for meds (your option 2) as the way the explained it to me I would be spending a lot of time in the hospital waiting on things to happen and then if it didn't work I would end up with an ERPC anyway.
I had no idea what to expect, so not sure if you want any more details, but as heartbreaking as it was, the actual day was over before I knew it and I got home. PM me if you want to talk about it or want to know anything else.
I'm so sorry again lovey, it really is devastating news xx
23/06/2014 at 23:19
Firstly, I'm so sorry to read this. Massive hugs to you.
I did a lot of googling about this when I was going through it and there were miracle stories to be had out there, albeit they are few and far between.
I had an ERPC at 10 weeks which for me at the time was the best option as I'd already had 4 weeks of scans and didn't want to drag things out any longer given that my body wasn't letting things go naturally.
I went into hospital first thing in the morning and was home around 3pm. I had hardly any bleeding or pain afterwards at all and I think my first period was about 6 weeks after.
My periods did change after the procedure though and I was worried for quite a while about complications or scaring after but obviously things seem to be ok.
I can't tell you what option to choose because it's totally a personal decision but if you do decide on an ERPC and have any questions there are quite a few of us here that have been through it and will always be available to answer them.
24/06/2014 at 01:57
I've done all three. I waited for nature to take it's course and it didn't. I've taken the tablets. I took the first one on the Friday and then I was supposed to come back on the Monday for the second tablet. But actually everything came away on the Sunday at home. It was a bit of a shock because I didn't know that might happen. I have also had the EPRC. I ha dlots of heavy bleeding with lumps in it afterwards. Again I didn't know that would be unusual and that they had performed an incomplete one and I had to then go back and have the tablets after all. I wouldn't recommend on over the other. It's all a big pan of *** to have to consider full stop
Neither affected my periods!
24/06/2014 at 07:31
Can't offer any advice but just wanted to say sorry that its come to this. Thinking of you and your h xx
24/06/2014 at 10:12
I'm so sad to be reading this MG, I have no advice about what you're asking but I just wanted you to know that I am thinking of you and your H at this sad and difficult time. xxxx
24/06/2014 at 10:33
just want to offer massive, useless hugs MG. So sad for you xxx
24/06/2014 at 10:59
so sorry to hear this mg :-(
I had no1 unitentionally and it ended badly so i would not recommend that. Ended up with an erpc under a spinal rather than a general, is that something your hosp would do? It was fine, actual procedure took 5 mins and staff etc were all lovely and reassuring. xx
24/06/2014 at 11:17
I've no advice Mac girl but just wanted to let you know I'm thinking of you & your H - so sorry to read this - some more inadequate useless hugs coming your way xx
24/06/2014 at 13:54
I'm so sorry to hear this. It's such a devastating time and to have to go through all of the waiting just prolongs the suffering.
I had this option with my twins but I just wanted to get it over with asap so I could get on with trying again. As a result I opted for an ERPC. I'm so glad I opted for it as it was over with so quickly. Unfortunately, they didn't get everything in the first op so I had to have another. They warn you it's a possibility, as they do it blind, but maybe because it was twins there was more to get and they missed quite a bit. The second time they did it with the aid of an ultrasound to make sure they got everything. I think it's rare that they don't get everything first time.
The staff were really sympathetic to my situation, and it made me feel so comfortable in a horrible situation. Afterwards I bled for a little bit but not much, was in a little bit of discomfort but didn't really need painkillers and my cycle was very short afterwards which meant we could get on with trying a month afterwards. That cycle we conceived again.
I hope you are able to come to a firm decision on what is best for you and that whatever you decide it is as quick and painless as possible.x
24/06/2014 at 14:02
As for the procedure itself, whilst on the ward you are given tablets to open your cervix and a couple of painkillers, they come and fill in some forms with you, then when it's time you are walked to theatre and laid on a bed. I can't remember when they put the needle in your hand, but they talk to you about random stuff whilst they prep stuff, then put a gas mask on you, tell you to take deep breaths and you slowly go off to sleep. Wake up in recovery and it's all over. Once you've eaten, drunk and had a wee you can go home. X
24/06/2014 at 15:03
I'm so sorry to see this Mac girl, life really is so unfair at times. Thinking of you and your H xxx
24/06/2014 at 17:13
Thanks everyone for your good wishes.
And thanks so much to those of you who were able to share your experiences, it's so helpful. I'm so sorry that you've all had to go through it though as it is totally heartbreaking. I appreciate you all taking the time to respond with your thoughts as I know it's probably not easy for you to talk about.
I agree with what a lot of you said about the ERPC being over more quickly (or I suppose likely to be over more quickly)! That's what's making me think that is my best option. Plus I don't think I could cope emotionally with seeing anything, not that I'd probably see much if the baby is only measuring 5 weeks. I don't know if a spinal would be an option, I'll ask about that. Although that might make me more anxious thinking I might 'see' something or be aware of it happening.
I'm worried about how we will move on and conceive again as we were on fertility treatment. I don't have a regular cycle either (shortest was 54 days and longest was 192, with my average being 120). I obviously don't want to do anything that might affect our future chances of conceiving. I'm worried they'll say to me 'wait until you have 2/3 cycles' or even 'wait until you have a proper period'. For me that could be six months just for one cycle!
Browny- I know you were on clomid, do you mind if I ask did you return to a 'normal' cycle after the op? How quickly can you start on treatment again?
24/06/2014 at 17:36
My consultant told me to just get on with it once we'd had a natural cycle, which luckily for me appeared after 4 weeks. I have heard of consultants telling people to wait a couple of cycles though. During that natural cycle we were NTNP anyway as I couldn't bear the thought of stopping trying. AF turned up which was a happy surprise as I didn't expect it to happen so quickly. I assume it was because the clomid was still in my system.
My consultant gave me some provera just in case as I told him I was worried AF would take months to show after the ERPC. I was told to wait 8 weeks and if no AF to take a test and if BFN to take provera which would kick start AF and then start clomid. He gave me 4 months supply and told me to come back after 3 months if no BFP. We fell on that first clomid cycle after the natural cycle following the ERPC if that makes sense.
I was lucky that I had the appointment with my consultant, booked in for my usual 3-monthly check as it fell a week after the first ERPC, before I knew I'd need another one. He was so good and understanding and pretty much did what I wanted him to do.
Feel free to ask me any other questions you think of xxx
24/06/2014 at 21:36
Thinking of you x
25/06/2014 at 10:38
I cant really add any more than whats been written above. My ERPC was smooth and fairly painless. I bled for about a week or so afterwards, just spotting really, but had my period 27 days later which is the shortest cycle I've ever had.
I have also had 2 natural mc and they were horrible. If it had been an option I would have the ERPC every time.
Thinking of you xxxxxx
27/06/2014 at 11:34
Thanks everyone. I've decided to go for the ERPC. Just waiting for a call back to hear when I can be booked in next week.
27/06/2014 at 11:45
Sorry its come to this lovely x
27/06/2014 at 17:01
So sorry to be reading this! I have no advice but didn't want to read and run. Hope all this is over soon xx
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