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28/01/2015 at 15:10
We'd love to hear your thoughts about this.
A new study suggests that giving women smokers £400 (in vouchers) if they give up smoking while they're pregnant is so much more effective than simply advising/supporting them to quit that it may be worth the NHS looking into 'paying' all pregnant women smokers to give up their cigs.
600 pregnant women from Glasgow took part in the study, published in the British Medical Journal - and more than 20% of the women who were offered vouchers stopped smoking throughout their pregnancy (they were monitored with special breath tests), compared with only 9% who were given normal NHS support (a face-to-face appointment with a smoking cessation adviser, follow-up phone calls and free nicotine replacement therapy for 10 weeks).
So, what do you think?
Should we be giving pregnant women a £400 incentive to give up their cigs - because we all know smoking in pregnancy can have a big, negative health impact on the baby, and, frankly, anything that works is a good idea?
If you smoke(d), would you have found it easier to quit if you'd be offered these vouchers?
Or is it just wrong to 'bribe' a pregnant woman to quit? And a waste of NHS resources?
Please do tell us what you think by posting on this thread!
29/01/2015 at 12:15
As a former smoker, the minute i found i was pregnant, I immediately stopped - I had visions of this little baby in my tummy being filled with smoke, and that was the end of it. I'll never forget going for my appointment at the hospital and seeing a super heavily pregnant woman standing outside the hospital smoking - it revolted me. But to pay women to quit - i think this is a waste of taxpayers money - women should know well enough, no matter who you are, where you come from, no matter how much you crave a smoke, you're growing a baby!On the flipside, maybe it's cheaper for the government (£400 - that's a lot!) to shell out this £400 then it is to treat newborns from the side effects of being born to a smoking mother. I'd be interested to see those costs.
Still, whatever next? Flat screen tv's to stop people taking hardcore drugs?
29/01/2015 at 15:05
I think the idea of this is utterly ridiculous. If you are pregnant and don't give up smoking you don't deserve to be pregnant. I have no other words....
29/01/2015 at 16:49
I used to smoke and as soon as I found out I was pregnant gave up, cold Turkey with no help, I was also not a light smoker. I am not saying it was easy and there should be support in place to help pregnant women to give up but sorry not in the form of money.
If you can't do it for your baby then am not clear how you can do it for the added bonus of a monetary award. A baby is the biggest gift we can be given and I am sorry if this does not go down well with people then maybe those who can do it for money but not just for the health of their unborn child need to re consider whether they are at the right stage in their lives to be having a child.
As an adult of child bearing age I have a choice, my unborn child does not, the choice is to smoke or not smoke. The choice was easy for me although hard to go cold turkey, each time I craved a cigarette I thought of my baby developing and it got me through.
this debate will always invoke strong thoughts and opinions and I believe everyone has the right to air these in a non offensive way. Ultimately though it's a decision made by individuals, I just strongly question how money can make the difference.
29/01/2015 at 18:05
Wow, this is a controversial one, isn't it?
I do see what the rest of you are saying but...
I wonder how much it costs already to support pregnant women smokers to quit? It says in the first post that the NHS already pays for each of them to have a face-to-face appointment with a smoking cessation adviser, follow-up phone calls and free nicotine replacement therapy for 10 weeks.
That must cost a fair bit already, no?
So I suppose if using that money to give the women vouchers instead really does work better - and the babies end up healthier - then that might be a good thing that , ultimately, doesn't cost the NHS any more?
It just doesn't sound good when you talk about 'paying' people to give up smoking, does it?
12/11/2015 at 13:48
Hello everyone. We just wanted to update this thread.
And that's because there's now a new study, published yesterday, saying that offering women who smoke money to give up smoking while they're pregnant is 'cost-effective', and would be a 'sound financial investment' for the health service.
Their argument is that the money offered to the pregnant smokers is less than the money that would be spent on the potential health problems their babies would suffer, if the women didn't quit smoking while pregnant.
But what do you think?
Do you think the NHS should go ahead and offer financial incentives to stop women smoking in pregnancy? Or do you think that's just wrong?
Please do let us know by adding a post to this thread.
13/11/2015 at 16:19
Hi I just don't understand how offering people money will help them. Smoking is an addiction that can't just be stopped by giving people money. Maybe they think that will people will be more eager to listen and go to appointments if offered vouchers for each one they attend. I think it's morally wrong though because they should want to attend either way. However if this does help people to quit then I guess it is better than nothing and as some have said the nhs have weighed it up against the cost of healthcare. I think the breath tests are a good idea however to help people quit xx my friend smoked while pregnant and had no intention whatsoever of wanting to cut down. I thought this was quite sad and a shame but people will do what they want regardless of the offer of money - given that her and her husband are well off she wouldn't have been bothered by the offer of vouchers, so maybe the nhs needs to come up with some more ways of informing people of the dangers to their baby as many people are unaware. Maybe when expectant mothers go for the first appointment everyone should be asked if they are a smoker and then forced to attend help groups that will Help them to quit.
13/11/2015 at 20:40
I think this is awful, if the health of your unborn baby isn't incentive enough why would vouchers be?
Also how many would say they smoked or start to smoke purely to get the £400?
I think the money would be better spent in education for teens on health awareness / sexual health than a patch over the problem.
13/11/2015 at 22:39
It's ridiculous! If you can't choose your babies health over a ciggarette then why should you be rewarded with £400 when the mental health support and meals for unable old people funds are being swiped away. Those people actually need help and don't have a choice to improve without that help. It really annoys me!
14/11/2015 at 10:32
When I was pregnant with my son I was a smoker. I was young naive and in a way didn't realise what harm I could have done to him until the day he was born I think until I held him in my arms it wasn't real. I regret it all the time I wish I hadn't smoked and if he ever develops asthma or related illness I will blame myself. I gave up the day he was born he is now 4 and the thought of smoking repulses me. I'm now pregnantwith my second child and follow every rule in the book. I think paying for people to give up is disgusting like you all say if a mum can't give up for the health of there baby theN there is something wrong indeed. I was never offered any support to give up I think the support would have been enough for me. To be a bit more educated of the risks and harm it can do. What's next pay to stop drinking alcohol or having to much caffeine??
15/11/2015 at 15:22
No. Pregnant mothers should not be paid to give up. They should give up for the sake of their unborn child.
What about those who are pregnant that don't smoke?
Or those that once did but no longer? They can always go back to it.
I did not smoke in either of my pregnancies, did I get anything for caring about my health in order to care for my child's? No.
Any woman will the strengh and willpower to quit for money. Should be able to do so for the health of their child/children.
16/11/2015 at 20:50
I don't agree with paying mums to give up smoking while pregnant ... But from reading all the comments above saying you gave up cold turkey ect what if the mum to be can't Give up that simple? are you all just going to name her a "bad mother" because she A smoker? I understand there is always going to be arguments over smoking either pregant or with your children but instead of saying the mother is disgusting ect you don't no her story she could be trying but finding it hard you don't no her story I don't believe we should judge each other but try and help.
16/11/2015 at 21:21
Am going to go back to my original post almost a year ago. No-one should ever call someone disgusting if they smoke whilst pregnant and this post was always going to invoke strong opinions from all sides. It's not easy going 'cold turkey', however, what we need to do is invest the money that is suggested to act as a motivator for people to give up smoking whilst pregnant and place it in long term investment by support networks that can give pregnant women the support to stop slowly and at a pace that suits them. Giving up smoking is hard, I should know having been a heavy smoker and yes I did go 'cold turkey' but then not everyone is the same and everyone is going through different life situations that may make that harder for them to just give up.
being pregnant is hard enough without us blaming people for their choices. However, I stand firm by my opinions which is that your baby does not have a choice and choosing to have a cigarette is within our control, giving up straight away is not the answer for all let's face it smoking less is better than not giving up at all. The taxpayer should never have to give hard cash for someone to give up smoking, use it wisely to invest in support networks that give women the right level of support to make good lifestyle changes which will benefit their babies
16/11/2015 at 21:35
From what I can see here no one on this thread has called a smoker a bad mother. I was a smoker when I got pregnant - albeit not a heavy smoker - I just never smoked while I was pregnant, I didn't fancy one and would have felt ill. However I was constantly faced with smoke around me because I worked with my dad who is a chain smoker and he smoked in the car as well as at work, as well as my ex bf and the in laws smoking around me. The only way to have got away from it would have been to quit my job or stand out in the cold... would u agree that was selfish of them to inflict smoking on me and my baby? so why is it not selfish of a mum to be the one who is smoking inflicting it upon her baby? No1s saying shes a bad mum we know how hard it is to quit or go cold turkey... But having £400 in their back pocket somehow makes it easier? The only benefit herself and baby would get from that money health wise would be to pop to tesco and buy some nicorette...
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