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26/06/2013 at 23:00
I hope I'm barking up the wrong tree but am a little worried Sam may have reflux, though I admit I know very little about it.
In the last week he has started bringing up quite a lot of milk after most feeds and in the last day it has been quite lumpy. He also coughs - not all the time, but in between feeds and in his sleep (just a few little coughs at a time.) I've just carried him upstairs asleep, and as he laid cradled in my arms, started making a funny face like he had a sour taste in his mouth - he does this in his sleep sometimes, then all of a sudden started gagging, I lifted him upright and he got quite sick, but stayed asleep.
I have no idea if the above is normal or not. Prior to this, he had been getting trapped wind and we have started using infacol regularly over the last few days, which does coincide with him bringing up milk a lot when winding, and in between - could it be that it isn't agreeing with him? Or is this just the infacol doing its job?
26/06/2013 at 23:16
What about stopping the Infacol and see if it stops again?
26/06/2013 at 23:21
Yeah I was wondering if I should. Not that I want the trapped wind back! It does seem perhaps like too much of a coincidence doesn't it? Would much rather it was infacol related than reflux of course!
26/06/2013 at 23:26
I was told not to use infacol/dentinox on a reflux baby as it relaxes the flap to let wind up, therefore letting more acid up. Don't know how true but made sense. If it continues get to the dr ASAP as try drag their heels as it is so you don't want to leave it to get worse. Gavisxon may help if it is
26/06/2013 at 23:29
Thanks Missus. Do you mean the Drs drag their heels in diagnosing it? Is it tricky to diagnose? And how is it treated once it is? A friend of a friend has recently had to stop BF as her LO had bad reflux and was bringing everything up, but is ok on formula? Is it more common in BF babies? Sorry for the barrage of questions, I can't find that much online.
I will definitely cease the infacol. Thanks
26/06/2013 at 23:31
Also MS, does Sam sound refluxy from what I described? Is that how H was? So hard to know what is normal baby behaviour and what is something to fret over!
26/06/2013 at 23:44
Hmm you see Henry had silent reflux (eventually found out caused by cows milk protein allergy, but symptoms still reflux) so he wasn't bringing up sick but had the classic symptoms, could see him bringing something (acid/sick) up and swallowing it down with funny looks on his face. Arching back feeding, grunting and uncomfortable laying flat.
It's only diagnosed by what you tell the dr so keep a diary.
The majority of drs dismiss it unless you push push push. I was told 'all babies cry' *bang head on wall* Gaviscon is the first port of call. It can be effective but bunged Henry up something rotten. There are stronger meds but they didn't touch him. After trying lots of meds and different milks te powers of deduction told us about the allergy. His symptom stopped within weeks! Changes baby. But not before it got unbearable
27/06/2013 at 07:19
Sounds like it to me. Sammy had silent reflux exactly as MS described, Sebastian has sicky reflux. He started out really grunty, writhing around, sounded a bit like a sheep etc but then a few weeks ago started being sick a lot. I was pretty determined when I went to the gp as I've been here before, first dr tries to fob me off with gaviscon so went back for domperidone and ranitidine. He is still sick but more comfortable. Yesterday at our 6 week check we were prescribed enfamil formula too even though he only has one formula feed a day. The gp did comment how hard bf and reflux is as it's easy to change formula but hard to change breast milk.
Hope you get it sorted. In the mean while keep him upright as much as you can especially after feeds, prop one end of the basket or cot up.
27/06/2013 at 08:35
Thank you both for your help, poor little boys. Sounds like it's a bit of a battle to sort. He is very noisy, esp when feeding but I didn't know this wasn't normal. He was also crying on the breast yesterday which sent alarm bells ringing but he hasn't done that before. He feeds lots too which everyone has just said because he's a big 'un but he's often on and off me all evening. Also every time he has hiccups it ends in being sick, am assuming that isn't right.
I think I'll take him to the HV drop in clinic this morning and get him weighed in case there's been an impact there - hes been sick 3 times after a feed this morning, and see if they can advise. We have our 6 week check on Tuesday so will see the Gp then when the infacol should be totally out of his system so I'll know it's not connected.
Do you think your diet affects S at all WH? Eg spicy or citrusy things? I am wondering if I should cut out the chilli for a while?!
27/06/2013 at 09:15
L had reflux. Would projectile vomit after and in between feeds. I fed him as upright as possible. When winding, don't pat, just rub, sit them up for as long as possible after feeds (sling was good for this) rolled up towel under crib/pram mattress, muslin under their head (saves changing sheets 3-4 times a day, muslin under them in the car seat and over the actual seat -I learned this the hard way when L projectiled all over my car!!
27/06/2013 at 10:15
I think a little bit is normal E certainly possetted quite a bit in the early days but once she brought it up she was fine. I think as long as they are not crying or in pain with it i wouldn't worry. Their digestive systems are still developing so some issues are normal. Hope the hv can out your mind at ease x
27/06/2013 at 10:16
I definately think spicy food makes E more refluxy so i do avoid generally.
27/06/2013 at 12:43
Thanks all, tips very useful!
HV is pretty sure he has it, everything she said was Sammy - including things I hadn't realised were a symptom; gargling, only sleeping 10/11 hours in 24, waking when laid on his back, feeding lots. He has still had a weight gain though, less than she'd expect but nothing concerning ATM. She suggested dentinox instead of infacol so the colic doesn't return but agreed the infacol might be troubling him a bit. She also said to wind gently - I've been quite firm up to now, and to keep upright before attempting to wind. Unless the vomit gets a lot worse she wants me to monitor for the next two weeks until he is next weighed before going to the Gp but I'll see how he goes of course.
Willow I was thinking posseting was normal but it has been a lot the last few days, he's also brought milk up while he's on the breast, not nice. She saw him feed and commented on his noises, I just thought he sounded hungry and cute!
27/06/2013 at 15:05
Glad the hv is supportive and offered good advice. Hope he feels better soon x
27/06/2013 at 15:31
Thanks Willow :) I know it's only a little thing but feel like he hasn't caught a break yet - protective, dramatic new Mum alert! x
27/06/2013 at 18:43
Sounds really reminiscent of E's symptoms - we are now on gaviscon. I hope you manage to get it under control soon - it is a nightmare when they are so unhappy. xx
27/06/2013 at 22:25
Lamby- I can't believe she basically agreed he had reflux but isn't actively managing it! If he seems in pain in the meanwhile go to your gp.
There seems to be an awful lot of babies with reflux this year!
28/06/2013 at 08:32
WH I actually hadn't thought of it like that! Guess she wanted to see if infacol was aggravating it, though she did know the non sick symptoms had been for a while. I am at the Gp on Tuesday for our 6 week check so unless he suddenly stops his pain faces, coughs, hiccups etc. which I doubt, I'll ask for gaviscon. I better try expressing / bottle this weekend too as I've heard it's a bit of a nightmare to give when breast feeding! Thanks for the advice, hope S' new formula really improves things.
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