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23/09/2013 at 08:40
So, DS1 was ebf. We went with the flow for the first 6 weeks, then at 6 weeks we started to do bath time every night roughly at the same time, followed by a feed and then bed. he fed to sleep (ie he was so zonked after a feed he could not be roused, even if stripped naked!) so he obviously slept straight away. At some point quite near the beginning he also started to fall into a 3hr feeding pattern. All in all, he was a very easy and laid back baby.
DS2 Is almost 5 weeks and we have no routine yet, I think I want to wait until 6ish weeks again. He seems to know day and night now as he has mostly done wet nappies during the night and when he wakes and feeds he does just that, as opposed to staring wide-eyed and awake or whatever. He seems to keep snacking with his feeds? My supply is good, so it's not like he takes both sides and needs more later, he often takes one side and most of the time I can't persuade him to have the other. Last night I swear I fed every 1.5 hours.
in the day he tends to sleep in morning (8ish, like now) and then randomly through the day, and obvious.y for ages if in the car/carseat when shopping. No idea what his feeds are.
Our house has no routine other than bath time after tea (whatever time that is) and DS1 goes to nursery 2 mornings per week. How can I fiti baby into this?
How long is too long for baby to sleep?
How can I make him feed more effectively? Snacking is not really good for him or me.
oh, and we move house in shoulders (yeh, I am actually a glutton for punishment). Should I just play it by ear until then?
23/09/2013 at 10:30
My A was a snacker. I embraced it, I thought it was great actually. It meant he always took a top-up and then was happy to be left for an hour or two so I could go out. Also meant I could spend a lot of time sitting down. However, I only have one! It is entirely normal for babies to feed throughout the night especially during a growth spurt, A fed every 45 minutes one night and I was ready to throw myself out of the window.
Personally yes I'd play it by ear until after you've moved. Just let baby find his own routine, it will come, 5 weeks is very early. Try not to compare your boys, sounds like you were a bit spoiled with your first [wink]
23/09/2013 at 10:46
I've never bothered getting into a routine until 6 months when baby can be put down for naps on their own upstairs. We just go with whatever makes life easier. He sleeps and feeds when he wants to and gets woken regularly for nursery pick ups and going out to toddlers, dance class etc A routine would just not work for us
23/09/2013 at 11:08
E is not almost 9 months, and we have no daytime routine, or least, not a strict one. Any routine we have, is one she has made out of habit and that suits us well TBH. I wouldn't personally bother before LO has had all their jabs and those first few growth spurts and development leaps because they change so much, even with our "no routine, routine" I'd wonder why E didn't want to sleep at 8.30 like she wanted to yesterday and I think, she was such a good sleeper when she went to bed tired, how you describe your DS2, she'd eat, sleep and that'd be it, no mad settling at bedtime or during the night, that I didn't particularly want/need to change it - we just accepted a "every day/night night be different" mantra and ran with it.
23/09/2013 at 11:21
J is 4weeks today and we have no routine yet. Apart from bedtime. Its around 9pm for me and J. I am hoping she finds her own routine. She has fallen nicely into a 3hr ish feeding pattern. Means I get some time with the toddler.
Hoping to start some groups again now I can finally drive again. That might make me find a routine x
23/09/2013 at 11:34
Thanks guys. I was very spoilt with #1 as he has always been amazing, even now. That said this baby is hardly hard work - he hasn't got colic or anything and he is generally quite contented (she says after he just been sick all over himself...)
I think I just need to be patient and hope we get to 3hours eventually. Otherwise I feel like I won't be able to do anything away from him!
Any ideas on how long is too long for him to sleep? (Daytime). Is it 45 mins?
23/09/2013 at 11:53
45 minutes?! Really don't think that's too long for him to be sleeping. Anything over 4, maybe 5 hours and I'd pick him up to feed him personally, but A had jaundice so we were on a strict no-more-than-three-hours stick for a long time (probably longer than we should have).
23/09/2013 at 11:58
No, lord no, in the early days it wasn't unknown for E to sleep 3/4/5 hours in one go. Not at night, waaah!
23/09/2013 at 12:00
In fact, E went up for a nap just before 10am, it's now 12 and she's still flat out, at 9 months haha x
23/09/2013 at 13:15
No, I meant should a nap be 45 mins - an hour? I'm sure yesterday he slept ages during the day as we were seeing family so he was having endless cuddles.
Will see how things pan out!
23/09/2013 at 13:46
Oh, naps here are anywhere between 30 mins and 1hr30. If it's not at least 30 mins I don't count it as a proper nap and try to make sure his next one is good and long.
23/09/2013 at 13:49
No I meant that too... At almost 5 weeks I wouldn't call it a nap, E spent most of her days asleep tbh. Pretty much we got... sleep for 2 hours, half hour awake, feed, sleep again.
23/09/2013 at 23:56
I would be most disappointed with naps of 45 mins. I'm looking for a good couple of hours at a time. As for routine, well it isn't something we have ever done. Orla is likely to have more of a routine imposed on her as she gets older because of the school run but at the moment (she's 9 weeks) I just go with the flow. Even now Orla is probably only awake for about an hour at a time and then has a couple of hours sleep.
24/09/2013 at 06:56
Id love a nap to be 45 minutes here! 30 is an achievement!
24/09/2013 at 07:59
My niece was 12 weeks when we were a way and slept for hours upon hours, in the whole week I held her twice as she was awake so rarely. E wasn't that good!
24/09/2013 at 09:50
Update: I downloaded an app yesterday to just track what was going on. My goodness I'm not surprised I'm tired. He sleeps 1hr20/30 at night, followed by a 5/6 min feed. Rinse and repeat!
His tummy must be small as I cannot get him to feed longer. Or both sides.
Will see what app says today is like as we will be out in the car so in the day he will have longer sleep at times (yesterday at home was 45 min naps)
So anyway, he has his own routine and it seems consistent so I guess it's just how he is right now. Hungry and growing!
24/09/2013 at 10:48
I'm totally the opposite to most. We established a routine very early on and from day 1 have done the same bedtime routine. It was sometimes hard but it has paid off, we're still strictly routine led but I think Isaac needed it - some babies are happy to go with the flow. It's good to start good sleep habits early though IMO.
24/09/2013 at 16:02
I think this early on babies find their own routine (if they have one at all).
Waking every 1.5 hours sounds like a growth spurt to me I remeber when disco had a growh purt one night I was pretty much up from 3am feeding him as he would only go for 30 min between feeds.
Disco wasn't one for napping in the day unless in the pram or really shattered. (thankfully regular napping kicked in at5/6 months once h started to crawl). WHen he did nap he slept for minimum of an hour usually more. Even now he hasat least a 1-2 hour nap a day (14 months).
Day times we didn't have much of a rountine the only we did have was a bed time pattern which was feed clean nappy sleep suit in swaddle or grow bag and depending on age another feed followed by wind and crib with lights out or if feed wasn't needed just down for night. initally this was at10 ish when we went to bed as disco cluster fed all evening, but it has stood us in good sted for bdtims since the cluster feeding stopped.
We introduced more of a bed time routine when he went into his own room at 6 months.
24/09/2013 at 19:40
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