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03/09/2013 at 18:11
...Make my brain hurt!!
We will be going with Maxi Cosi for the car seat (Pebble or Cabriofix) and we will be having the FamilyFix base so that it will last longer (my mum will also be buying one for her car so it just makes sense).
So I’m just starting to dip my toe into the world of pushchairs/pram/strollers (are these all the same thing?!). I know I can get adapters so lots of things will fit Maxi Cosi but the main thing I am wondering is do I need to get a set with a carrycot? Is it safe to push baby round in the car seat on the frame? We don’t regularly go out for hours on end but it is a possibility now and again.
I’ve just been having a quick look and it seems you can get a pushchair and car seat we want in a set for around £500, then we will have to get the bases, but then the carrycot is over £100 on it’s own and it seems like a lot for something that will get very little use...
What do you have?
03/09/2013 at 18:28
We had the carry cot too, and used it loads. She slept in it during the day, we walked to lots of baby groups and things, I wouldn't have been without it x
03/09/2013 at 18:31
WSe've been given a Hauck Malibu system with a million parts to it. I haven't got a clue how to use it though. Will have to have a practise soon!
I think I'm right in saying that they shouldn't be in the car seat bit fro more than a couple of hours. I'm envisaging using the carry cot bit for downstairs sleeping during the day and outings.
03/09/2013 at 18:36
We didn't bother with a carry cot even though W was a winter baby. I hated the idea of spending so much on something they only use for a short time, and then having to find somewhere in the house to store it. So we specifically got one where the main seat could lay fully flat to be suitable from birth.
Having the car seat on the frame to push around is perfectly fine and very handy. But they shouldn't be in the car seat for more than two hours as its not good for their spine so if you were going to be out for a whole day you couldn't really use it. Unless you planned to take baby out for a while and carry them/ sling them etc.
03/09/2013 at 18:40
So much depends on how you live your life. With my first child I walked a lot and the carrycot was used loads and loads. With Orla we are in the car most of the time because of the school run so carrycot gets much less use, although we do use it for naps downstairs.
Personally I wouldn't want to have no option other than carseat for a baby, but a lot of prams now the seat is suitable from birth without the carrycot so would probably consider that.
Only 3 weeks in and I have ended up buying a Bugaboo Bee as the big pram was just such a faff getting in and out of the car all the time.
A baby shouldn't be in a carseat for a period of more than 2 hrs at a time. Also, I would think twice before paying out extra for the familyfix base on the basis that you will use it for the next carseat as well. It is much safer to keep children rear facing for as long as possible and as far as I am aware, and it could have recently changed with the law being amended to require rear facing to 15 mths minimum, the familyfix base only offers a forward facing option once the infant carrier has been grown out of.
The problem is you don't know what the baby will like! Jude hated the carrycot and spent most of his first few months in a sling, I used the pram a lot more when I could have it in pushchair mode. This time we're planning on getting a bugaboo bee so we don't have to buy an additional carrycot and can just use the cocoon. Carrycots can be useful for daytime sleeps in the house though, instead of a Moses basket but Jude only really napped on me.
I think the oyster is a good buy and not ridiculously expensive.
03/09/2013 at 18:55
Bah now I'm even more confused! I didn't know you could get a pram seat suitable from birth, that sounds like a good option. I want to sling as much as possible but I don't think anyone else would. At the moment we go pretty much everywhere in the car but I think our lifestyle may change when the baby comes. I'm only a 20 min walk into town and when I have more time on my hands I'd like to get walking more, so would def need something suitable.
I knew that it wasn't advised to leave baby in the car seat for hours but I didn't know exactly how many so thank you everyone.
Jelly baby, now I'm really confused! If it's changed to 15 months how can they still sell the base?! Will have to look into that more obviously. We just wanted it as cost effective as possible with 2 members of the family having bases.
I'll note down bugaboo and oyster to look at. It's so flipping confusing! And this is just the tip of the iceberg!
03/09/2013 at 18:57
You need a seat that lies flat for it to be suitable from birth. There are so many options and its so tricky, I'm only so certain this time because its my second and I've been coveting a bee for a long long time!
03/09/2013 at 19:04
We have the carrycot for our buzz. Its away being repaired atm but it'll be used for no3. We didnt use the carrycot much with no 1 or 2 as lived in a flat and the car seat was easier to carry up and down than carrycot
03/09/2013 at 20:10
I used the carrycot until mine were each 6-7 months so technically it's been used for over a year in total. So worth every penny I think. I walked loads with number 1 and she was snuggled/warm/dry in the carrycot over the winter. L wouldn't nap in the crib or cot so all his daytime naps were in the carry cot for the first 6 months (while I was walking) I couldn't have done that in a car seat.
The family fix base will still be legal to sell even if the law has changed because some 15 month old wont be over the weight and height limit for the first stage seats.
I've never had a car seat that fits on a chassis and its never been a problem. I kept the sling in the car and popped them in that if I was nipping into a shop.
I had Britax first class seats which stay fitted in the car and mine were rear facing in those until 17/18 months.
03/09/2013 at 20:15
I used our carseat on the pram a lot, and still do sometimes now. When she was little she would always fall asleep in it so it seemed silly to take her out of it and wake her up. We tended to only use it when we were out and about in town, so that was never more tham a couple of hours anyway. She hated the main pram bit whem she was tiny, and its only in the last month or so that we've used the main pram bit more than the carseat. It really does depend on the baby
We have the oyster and brought the carry cot
I wouldn't have been without the carry cot as we used it for naps during the day in the living room, I walked to town everyday and was fab for that or if I wanted to go out and about in town shopping lunch coffee etc.
having carry cot was great if we went to see people for the day as well as meant we had somewhere safe to put disco while ate or if h was tired etc (not that napped much for the first months unless we were out for a walk)
worth noting that it isn't reccomened to have little ones in car seat for prolonged amounts of time so if you were driving some where and then shopping/ socialising for a period of time it wouldn't be great to have baby in car seat for the duration.
As others have said if the puch chair you are looking at is suitable from birth then you won't need a carry cot.
03/09/2013 at 20:26
I've got a Britax B-Smart that I've used from birth as the seat lies flat. You can also get a soft carrycot to fit into the main seat which works out cheaper.
03/09/2013 at 20:40
Sorry, i wasn't saying that the base wouldn't be legal, but that you are limiting yourself to that specific next stage maxi cosi seat whereas a lot of people now choose to keep their child rear facing for longer (up to around 4 yrs even) which might not be something you had thought about yet. There are definitely more and more extended RF seats coming on the market.
03/09/2013 at 22:34
I don't see the point in the FF base really as surely you wouldn't be lugging the car seat about for that long? You know O is diddy and I very rarely carry him in the car seat now, he's just too heavy.
We have the oyster. Went to the baby show and got the while package (cabriofix, base, pushchair and carrycot) for around £600. I love it, glad I chose it over I candy peach. The carrycot didnt get much use but I'd still buy it again for the odd times you do go out for a while.
03/09/2013 at 23:37
If you have a Kiddicare near you, or a similar store, you could always go and have a play with the prams and see if car seats fit.
04/09/2013 at 10:08
Is getting the carrycot second hand something you would be willing to look into? A lot of carrycots rarely get used so you be able to pick up a nearly new one for a fraction of the price?
04/09/2013 at 10:25
We have the Icandy peach which I can put the Maxi cosi pebble on. The seat isn't suitable until 6 months, so we had the carrycot too. It was £200 but luckily for us, E adored the carrycot and I've only just recently packed it away now, as it was used for daytime naps in the lounge before I was happy to put her up in the cot. It's been very well used.. I agree with JB though it in that it depends on your lifestyle.. I'd use the carrycot if it's hot (she gets very sweaty in the car seat), if it's cold enough so that she needed a show suit (nightmare in carseat) if she'd been in the carseat a while or we planned a full day out.. (Here, for example it's 20mins to supermarket, so even a food shop / moach around the cardshop/ petrol station run can be 2 hours plus), when I walked into the village knowing she'd sleep..
I'd also echo what HT says, about 4 months I couldn't carry E in the carseat and it only goes on the base when she's asleep in it now, from a car ride to babygroup for example.
Personally, I believe you get what you pay for when it comes to prams, which is why we completely blew our budget on the Icandy, Pebble and family fix base.
I also agree with JB re the base. we're considering stage 1 seats now (won't be needed for a while) and I think we're eering on ditching the base and keeping her rear facing as it's been proven to be safer. We were in the MK Safrty centre last week and the way I understand it is that this new guideance will run alongside the current legistation, so you wouldn't be breaking the law, as such, but obviously contraviening a guideline. As it stands, I think E, despite being 91st percentile, will last until 14-15 months in her carseat (we were told to come back at easter by the MK people, when she'll be 15-16 months) and so we'd have had our use out of the base.. it's the same price as the easyfit which only gets used on stage0 seat so I've not lost anything..
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