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04/10/2013 at 22:43
O started nursery 4 weeks ago, he only goes 1 day a week.
First week, fine.
Second week send home at 11am because 'he has a bit of a temp, has coughed a few times and is a bit grizzly which is not like him'.
Week 3 ok.
Week 4 (yesterday) sent home again as 'his temp was approaching 102'. MIL picked him up and said it was really warm in there, his temp was 37 when she got him home.
He's always been a warm baby, always sweating which I've worried myself silly over but have been reassured by the Dr and HV that it's normal. I took him to the doctor today and she said he is absolutely fine and unless he is showing signs of being unwell the nursery shouldn't be checking his temperature. Each time he has been sent home he's been absolutely fine, he was upset yesterday when I dropped him off but he's been clingy recently. When he is at nursery I am at college with no access to a car and my H is at work where it's pretty much impossible to just up and leave so it's a right faff having to get him picked up, not to mention that I have to pay £40 for a few hours childcare.
Is it worth approaching the nursery about it or are they just following routine? Is it normal to be checking his temperature all the time?
05/10/2013 at 06:35
I dwfib would. How on earth can they say "its not like him" after just one session! They don't really know much about him to judge that.
E is the same, often sweating while I'm just about warm enough and tended to put the heating on! I don't see why they'd take his temp unless he was constantly sneezing, was screaming inconsolably (and then it'd be teeth with E) etc. I'd definitely speak to them. That's a lot of missed time
05/10/2013 at 08:25
Yeah I'd say something. I'd highlight he is a sweaty baby. You are happy with his health when you drop him in the morning so unless he appears unwell in another way you don't think they need to take his temperature.
05/10/2013 at 08:34
As a nursery nurse I can see how they may panic if they pick him up after a sleep or something and he feels veryw arm, however if you right them a letter explaining he is a warm baby and your not to be called without he presence of another symptom, they should accept that!
However also as a nursery nurse I have witnessed nurseries call parents to collect their children, when the nursery is understaffed to even out the ratios as it saves them bringing in a temps Taff member for the day!!
05/10/2013 at 08:35
05/10/2013 at 09:07
Monnie that is terrible to do it because they are understaffed!!
I would want to say something but not sure what I would say its a tricky one.
If he's only going one day a week it will take him quite a while to properly settle in there , especially as at his age many are going through the clingy phase so he may be upset when he wakes from a nap and you're not there etc.
W only goes once a week and it took a good 8 weeks probably of her crying at morning drop off, but she was happy two minutes after we left and now lives it so much when the car pulls into the car park she gets really excited to be going into nursery
I don't think if there's any other symptoms they should be sending him home just because of a temp.
It's tricky though from their point of view they may just be over cautious, wanting to cover their backs incase something was wrong. But as you say it's a lot of money and inconvenience.
I was worried about W being sent home sick and wasting the money as I am a SAHM so we are paying for her to go one day a week purely for her development, time away from me etc. so far she's been since April and never once come home (touch wood). She's had diarrhoea a few times too and I've worried they'd send her home but haven't as she has been absolutely fine in herself so they've used common sense that its most likely due to teething.
Could you suggest to them that as you think he's been sent home when he's fine, that next time MIL has to go and collect him she uses her judgement as to whether he isn't his usual self or not. If she goes and just stays with him there for 15mins to help settle him a bit if he's upset he might then be fine after getting cuddles off a familiar face and be ok for the rest if the day. Then after a few more weeks he will be more familiar with the staff and will settle with cuddles from them?
05/10/2013 at 10:35
I think you should say that you took him to the doctor who said there was nothing wrong with him and explain he's a 'hot' baby.
Where my children go to nursery, they will give one dose of calpol for a temperature and only ask you to collect the child if it doesn't come down after that. They appreciate that the child is there because I am in work and they use their judgement - obviously if a child is really ill they will call but they don't mind a few sniffles now and again.
05/10/2013 at 12:50
Wow, I have no experience of nurseries sending children home but I'd be really concerned about the 'temp approaching 102'.
How was he when your MIL collected him? Was he stripped to his nappy? I would have thought they would have had to do that if his temp really was that high. If they hadn't stripped him to try and cool him down then I'd be questioning their temperature taking and asking why they hadn't. At that high, I would have thought a child would be showing signs of being really quite unwell as well and certainly not be ok when they got home. I think you need to have a chat about it with them as something seems not quite right, if they are saying that your child is quite seriously unwell when actually he's just fine.
05/10/2013 at 13:04
No trio he had on trousers, vest, thin long sleeved top and had apparently taken his hoody out and put that on too. He was perfectly fine, I picked him up around 2 hours after mil had collected him and had set not told me I would never have thought anything was wrong. I'm going to go in on Monday, I just know they're going to be funny about it. They seemed so perfect but it's just going down hill ever since we paid the deposit.
05/10/2013 at 17:06
It definately isn't usual to check a temperature for no reason, its not a standard procedure unless they have a reason to suspect a child is ill or looks hot. However, on discovering you boy was hot, did they remove some clothing an cool down with water and damp towel? If some declothing drops the temperature, I think you have a reason to say he is fine and doesn't need collecting, esp if he is still active, playing and so on. I would personally speak with them and ask for their specific policy, while pointing out that he is always hot and needs potentially less clothing if their room is warm.
05/10/2013 at 17:41
You could also ask to see their sickness policy too just to see what their written procedure is. But worth mentioning to them about him being a warm baby.
05/10/2013 at 18:24
He's under 2 so I'd tell them that I want an axillary temperature which is more accurate (and id direct them to the NICE guidelines on pyrexial children) I'd explain he's a sweaty baby and I'd ask to meet with management to set new parameters, ie if temp high can they discuss with you over the phone re medicating and then if still not down after medication then if they phone you again.
Is it policy they go home with high temps? How high is high?
Can you ask them to alert you to anything over 37.5 but that if he's well within himself, interacting, tolerating food and drink then you won't be collecting him
05/10/2013 at 18:25
Meant to say you aren't meant to sponge them down anymore as it makes them shiver and generates heat,
05/10/2013 at 20:46
They won't give any calpol, I'm not allowed to send him in for 24hrs after giving any form of paracetamol incase it is masking a fever. Is this standard? So for teething etc I can't give calpol if I want him to go to nursery the next day.
05/10/2013 at 23:16
That seems ott to me. If I've given calpol, I tell them and fill out a form with the time and dose given. They will give additional doses as long as its for a particular reason (not just cold/under weather) and again I have to sign permission. If they notice a high temp I can authorise for calpol to be given, then they take temp again 30min later (I think). If temp has come down she can stay, otherwise I have to collect.
06/10/2013 at 07:55
I'm sad that you won't give him paracetamol the day before nursery. If he needs it, then he must have it. How on earth would they know?
06/10/2013 at 08:39
Did u look at sickness/first aid policy before he started? What do they offer in terms of first aid? I find it off that they can't give medication even if written request. If he banged his head then would you have to collect or would they apply first aid???
06/10/2013 at 08:44
I would definitely say something, but ask to have a meeting rather than just grabbing someone or ringing up. I think they need to be clear on their policy and also explain why, if they were concerned about his temp, did they still have him in so many layers, and also why they were taking his temp in the first place. Good luck!
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