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07/08/2013 at 07:23
ill put a brief timeline of events
cd14 +opk and peak on cbfm
cd15 +opk and peak on cbfm
cd16 ultrasound to show I haven't ovulated, womb lining is only 9mm thick and my right ovary has 2 follicles the biggest being 7.6mm and my left has 4 follicles the biggest being 9.3mm. With follicles growing on average 2mm a day I'm still approx 1 week from ovulation, however iv already had my peaks?
this is today's chart, I think tomorrow I will get my crosshairs!
So it appears my body is acting normally however my ovaries are too slow,does anyone have any experience of this or any advice, because if I'm honest I'm more confused now than I have been for the last 10 months
07/08/2013 at 08:16
That's why opk's and cbfms aren't an exact science as they only measure lh rising to what it seems an appropriate level and can never tell you that you have ovulated. I didn't temp for long enough to be able to say much on that. Do you have pcos or on any medications like clomid as both can affect ovulation tests?
07/08/2013 at 09:33
i do have PCOS, however i am unsure how that can affect my temps ?
from what i have seen in my previous cycles though, i will see AF in 14 days, if i ovulate in 7 days time the egg wont have any womb lining to cling to , as AF will be getting ready to come.
and thats becasue my hormones have peaked and have told my body i have ovulated even though i havent, it appears my hormones and ovaries arnt in sync
07/08/2013 at 11:28
You don't need to ovulate to have your period. Like I say I didn't temp long enough to comment on that but I would guess your opks etc are inaccurate due to pcos. Hopefully someone else will reply with experience.
07/08/2013 at 13:20
You can release all the hormones to ovulate but then not actually ovulate, also like TPsays you don't need to ovulate to get your period.
The thing about your chart is it's very very up and down. If you temp issimilar tomorrow you may well get your crosshairs but what that proves i guess is that FF isn't set in stone, it's just a programme. Are you having any further scans?
You might want to put a shout out for Heartnurse. She is absolute queen of charting.
07/08/2013 at 13:32
but surley my temp dip and spike and continual rise cant be a coincidence as to when the opks are positive?
does that make sense?
07/08/2013 at 13:36
If you hadn'thad the scan then i'd say you'reright, it can't be coincidence BUT you can't argue with the scan results saying you haven't ov-d.
I'm sorry i don't have anythingmorehelpful to say, i'd be as confused as you in yourshoes butthe scan is the most definite of the 3 things.
With your temps you do have a dip and rise but you also have other dips earlier in the cycle, some lower too and dips don't always mean ovulation. Also although you do have a rise it's not a rise massively above your other higher temps. Ordinarily i'd say it's enough to indicate ov BUT combined with the scan it might just mean that the dip/rise IS just coincidence unfortunately.
07/08/2013 at 13:38
I agree with AR, the +opks is only a sign that your body is gearing up to ov, although it might decide for whatever reason to stop and hold off, and the fact you've had a scan to say you haven't yet ov'd would be even more indication that it hasn't happened. Previous time of TTCing I was getting +ve OPKs and all the right CM, but then it went and ov actually happened a week later.
No idea what it means if you do have a temp rise tomorrow and get cross hairs, but your temps do look a bit haywire anyway and may not continue to rise, so I'd go on the scan since that is a bit more accurate than anything else.
If you ovulate in 7 days, then your AF should also be delayed by 7 days so it won't be the fact that the egg won't have anything to cling to - the luteal phase is usually fairly static and doesn't normally change.
07/08/2013 at 13:39
Meant to say, this TTC malarkey is bloody crap and frustrating
07/08/2013 at 13:55
thanks ladies, i think the thing thats sticking in my brain is i know AF will be here 14 days after the opk, as thats how my cycles have been, i cant see this one being different
07/08/2013 at 14:03
Having you been temping in your previous cycles?
07/08/2013 at 14:14
yes, and they are the same thats why i dont believe its a coincidence, FF always says i ovulate when my opks do too, and i always see AF 14-16 days later
07/08/2013 at 14:17
I think you just need to see what happens with your temps over the next week or so. I take it you're seeing a consultant if you've been for scans yesterday - have they suggested what the next steps are?
07/08/2013 at 14:18
i paid privatley as the GP wont refer me until october, however i have booked a saturday morning appt with my GP, now i have facts to show them in the hope they will see me sooner
07/08/2013 at 14:43
Do you normally stop using OPKs and the cbfm after assumed ov? It might be worth continuing them throughout this cycle to see if/when you get another peak. Bear in mind that this one cycle is not indicative that this is happening every other cycle. It might be you are ov-ing late this particular cycle and Your period may also come later than expected. I used to surge 2 or 3 times before ov but I was only able to see the patten over multiple cycles. If it so happens that you have a short LP then there are things that can help to give you a better chance of hanging onto the egg! TTC is a right bugger!!! Hope you get things figured out!
07/08/2013 at 14:45
thanks sweetpea, i have carried on my cbfm and oks today for that reason, i do hope it surges again !
07/08/2013 at 15:07
Ah Mon Bon. I have nothing more to add apart from this big squishy hug!
07/08/2013 at 16:08
thanks ducky, im really struggling today . iv been very teary today :-(
08/08/2013 at 06:25
This morning I got my cross hairs and my temps are very high so I guess my progesterone levels are high, my opk doesn't have a second line so I guess there's no LH building. I don't understand how my follicle will burst without the LH and the egg won't survive anyway in a high progesterone environment
08/08/2013 at 09:39
Egg won't survive with high progesterone? A luteal phase defeat is when your progesterone falls too low to sustain a pregnancy so you do want high progesterone.
Are you having more scans? The only way to fully do follicle tracking is to scan continually to see if the follicle grows enough to burst, then have another scan once its gone plus have blood tests 7 days after the expected ovulation date. Your LH would rise accordingly during the period where the follicle is growing.
I think you need to disregard the opks and cbfm especially with pcos thats known to give false lh rises and trust the scan which won't be wrong. Are you taking your temp at the same time each morning without getting out of bed?
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