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07/10/2009 at 20:56
Just wanted to ask if anyone else out there feels like me???
Some of you already know Tom started nursery,and despite the fact he loves it-I HATE it. I hate the fact I don't know what they're doing,he still hasn't been to the toilet while he's there because he doesn't want to ask the girls there. Altho he hasn't wet himself he's bursting when he gets out poor lad.
The snack issue rages on,the leaflet said they get fruit,crisps or breadsticks,and juice and milk for drinks. So far he's had bread and water,biscuits and water,toast with no butter and no drink...... and so it goes on. No-one was interested in starting a snck club with me-then the cheeky cow who owns it asked us for more money cos she'd spent over a tenner on snacks-where the f**k does she buy her bread-she's being ripped off!!!!!!!!!! and the water out of the tap!!!!!!!!
I feel like I'm searching for any excuse for him not to go-that's wrong,cos he always says he's had fun and made friends with different kids,why do I hate it so much?????
08/10/2009 at 20:49
hey hun i think you have every right to feel the way you do,
i've worked in 3 nurseries and no matter how old the children are or what room they in there is always info available for parents to see what their children have been up to during the day, remember you pay them to look after your child so you have every right to know whats going on,does he have a key worker? if so maybe chat to her about you would like to know more about what he gets up to during his time there
the snack thing would bug me to, basically they either need to provide what they state that they provide or as near to it as possible or reveiew their leaflet and consider changing it. you have every right to bring this up to, maybe if you don't see that going anywhere tell them you will provide toms snack.
overall hunny even tho tom enjoys himself there you aren't happy and if you aren't happy with it little man will start to pick up on it, i think if you can't get some sort of solutions to the things you've mentioned then maybe you should consider changing nurseries
always here if you need a rant
08/10/2009 at 20:55
Cheers you're a good un!!!!
It's a council run 1-not private,and I think they just assume I'm like dying to get rid of him and will not be bothered what he does as long as I have free time(like a lot of the mums there)
I've brought snack issue up twice,apparently it's going to be changed,we'll see. Had a long chat today with a girl who works there,she said it's refreshing to hear how much I care,but that just made me sad for the other kids He does love it-every morning he says shall I go to big boys playgroup? Bless him. Think I'm just not ready for him to go-it's only 2 1/2 hours twice a week-I'm so silly
He hasn't picked up on any of my negative feelings yet I don't think??? We'll have to see.......keep you posted x Thanks Zoe x
08/10/2009 at 21:05
it doesn't matter if its council run or private hun every nursery has a common ground/guidelines to work along and one of them is providing information to their parents/carers about a number of things and providing healthy and appropriate snacks can be seen as one aswell
08/10/2009 at 22:06
at the risk of sounding thick, whats the difference between private and council, ive never heard of either ive only every heard or nursery/preschool or nursey daycare??
My sister playschool and the nursery shes at now that shell be in till crimbo when she joins reception, do diarys they send home when charley learns new things or does something nice and so on, occasionally a pictures stuck in or a photo of her, and the snacks are amazing!
Id personally be very peeved about snacks, that single fact would make me want to remove jack! But its hard when theyve settled well, but at the end of the day you do whats right and in toms best interest Two of my closest friends ive known since playschool so its important, if things just arent improving move him before hes been there to long hun, and feel free to rant cry and complain anytime, i completely get what you mean!
08/10/2009 at 22:45
You have a right to expect a good quality of care.Erin went to a private nursey for a shortwhile.It was in a day nursery who do before and after school for older children,plusholiday care,also they're a day nursery and a preschool.All that should have rung alarm bells.Erin had vouchers to pay for hers cos she wasthree,but they were alwayspushing for more hours cos she "had to go all day sometime".Not at three,I don't think.It was all about money.I didn't find the activities very stimulating ,the toys weren't of much educational value(thingslike a Girls World,or a tub of plastic soldiers)One day I went to pick her up,either her first or second day,and she was on her own in the room,no staff.They were busy taking the paying customers to lunch in another room.The food there is a whole other issue.We didn't go there very long.
There are good and bad nurseries.The school one I can't fault,the snacks are only fruit.They drink milk or water,and they can take awater bottle too.They have a book of all they've done with photos and you get to keep it when they leave.They get to do art,playdough,outdoor play,you name it,they can do it.
Really if you're not happy look elsewhere.Once Tom's three you'll get vouchers for him that pay for five 2.5 hour sessions a week.Don't know whether you're paying or not,that's irrelevant.If the nursery isn't providing the service they claim to,you're right to be cross.
08/10/2009 at 23:17
Hi ya - don't stress on the toilet thing, lots of children do that when they start nursery or school and refuse to use it (sometimes it's because it's strange and sometimes because it's not clean so have a look). My 26mth old son was completely dry at home and in pants at home but wet himself 2/3 times a day at nursery, because he was too busy to go when he needed to and didn't need to go when they took him. My 7yr old won't poo at school in case his friends see him ????? and runs home at 10mph to go.
I have to say and a Nursery Manager/ NVQ Assessor I have taken a year to find somewhere that I am happy with and there are still days when I think Okay deep breath and let it go. If you are angry and upset then I think you need to take him out - there is no point in letting it get you to the stage of having to up and drag him out. I know that's easy to say, but I have been there and done that (even worse because I work in the industry and they knew it).
I don't know if you work, but if they have an open door policy which allows parents to spend time in the setting - why not volunteer to go in for an hour to read a story, do a cooking activity or a music session with the children??? quote the EYFS (Early Years Foundation Stage) working with parents and families at them, they'll hate you for knowing it but won't be able to say no
What are the pro's of him staying and what are the cons? After you've done that you'll pretty much know if he should be there. Children are a lot more resiliant than we think and preparation is the key, letting him know about the changes and what new exciting things are in store elsewhere.
Take care and good luck.
09/10/2009 at 13:55
Oh thanks everyone. No Aliaj I don't work,I pay a fiver per session,and when I say council,it's a grubby community centre-listen to me I sound all snobby,that's not how I am.
Next week I'm going to get big fella to take day off and go and help out a session,and talk to the 'leader' as it were. I'm sure it's perfectly alright,and he does love it,and yes it will be free in January for him,so have to sort this out before then,so if I do want to move him,I'll do it before then.
He goes with his best friends the twins and a little boy who lives next door but 2,they will all be in his nursery and reception class at school,so that's another reason I don't want t take him out,I'm still in contact with people I went to playgroup with!!!!!
Thanks again everyone-I'm going to quit moaning now!!!!
03/11/2009 at 15:00
OMG -could that nursery get any worse?????????????
They have changed the fecking times now-without so much of a vote-giving us chance to air our views-and gave us 24 hours notice.
They now start at 9am,which ok is 15mins earlier,but how in September am I meant to be in 2 places at once that are 20 mins apart????? Jc will never get to go which is fine by me,but hes missing out on socialising and they've just lost £100 of money which I'd have paid for duration of him attending. School is more important and Tom needs to be there 9am.
Meeting tonight-and feck it I'm going,haven't been invited-don't care I'm going to have to say how terrible it is that they treat us like this. Again problem is some don't care-they'll just turn up late,as they don't pay. Have spoken to a few mums this am,and none are happy,two tried to have words with the leader but she shot them down-said use your car(cheeky cow) or others manage stop whingeing.
Mmmm interesting meeting tonight. How dare a playgroup leader tell you to use your car???? Not everyone has a car,or wants to use it for a short walk,and lets face it schools have enough traffic outside them with those that have to arrive by car,without locals adding to parking issues. Other people may manage-they have family around them who take their kids to school. I ant to take my son to school,not rely on others. god I'm bouncing with this woman. Sorry. I'm stopping now,keep my anger for tonight
03/11/2009 at 19:24
I recently left a nursery. They always told parents a caterer came in to provide the food. a lie! they bought it! Charging extra when they just popped into asda to buy a small gammon joint or a pie! such liars!Also other issues but wont go into it here!!!
A lot of nurseries Do care and give fantastic treatment to children. Im looking for a job in retail now. One cuz I dont want the the risk of getting poorly (glad I left as most the children in the nursery have chicken pox) and no nursery seems to be at my level of expectations!
Express your concerns...but if you really feel that unhappy, follow your guy and pull your kidlet out!
03/11/2009 at 22:09
It does get worse-meeting cancelled last minute-no-one rang to tell anyone-just walked for 20 mins in the cold for feck all
Cheers for your reply Corinne,mm I think everyone thinks I have high expectations in general,but when it comes to the lads they're probably higher again. Have decided to let Tom stay-unless things get drastically worse-as Tom does love it,but Jc isn't going there.
03/11/2009 at 22:31
It really doesn't sound like the nursery care about the service they provide,let alone the children they provide for.Who runs the place,is it the council?If it is it might be worth going to them with complaints.Even preschools get Ofsted inspections,don't they?
Is there no nursery closer to the school?Especially if you're not happy with this one.
I did have 2 to get to school for 8:50,and Erin to be at nursery at 9:00.Most nurseries would be reasonable,you can't be in two places at the same time
04/11/2009 at 22:17
The welsh equivalant of offsted inspect it-and it got high marks!!!??????
It's council run,but a charity??? Don't really understand it,but it is the closest to the school. Had apologies this am and a load of crapola as an excuse for not ringing blah blah.
It is such a strange set up,a group of mums founded it 30 years ago,1 of which is still there-thank god she doesn't have much to do with the kids-she's bonkers! and they are now a charity-constantly begging for money,set up a coffee morning for next Wednesday you pay for a drink and cake etc.... I thought good idea-was told can't take Joseff(why it's a nursery????) and out of 20odd mums 2 of us said we'd go-well I can't now no children allowed.
Shambles is the phrase I'm looking for. Shame Tom loves it.
04/11/2009 at 22:56
aw rach, things dont seem to be improving!
Are there any others near that you could move tom to? Im dreading finding one for jack, atm i might just keep him home until school because we might move again as we dont like the local schools near the new house. Theres plenty of clubs and sure start centres we can join so they can socialise, keep us updated hun and keep your chin up, atleast toms happy! x x x
04/11/2009 at 23:08
Lau,keep him with ya,wish I'd done that now. Can't take him out of there now he loves it-well he loves having new toys and pals to play with.
Join the groups you attend with them,we go to 2 and I'm not stopping til reception year. £1 and you get a coffee and biccy,kids get squash or take your own drink,and do crafts-what a bargain!!!!
04/11/2009 at 23:30
were joining tumble tots when we move ive been desperate to get jack into that and we dont have one!
Going to have to join tons of groups so we have some mates, its nice though two sils have little ones!
05/11/2009 at 14:13
Things seem to be going great for you with this move,hope Jack gets on with his cousins. That's the wonderful thing about a larger family I think,if you get along there's always someone around for you,the kids have playmates etc....
We went to one of our groups this morning-Tom said he didn't want to go as he prefers big boys playgroup Typical,I hate it he loves it. He had fun at the group,but watching him play you can see he needs ''structured play'' instead of just charging round having fun. I think he's going to be quite academic,the minute the playworker got the atrs stuff out he was over at the table like a shot!!!!
He loves to sit quiet and concentrate on whatever task he's doing-getting quite creative and arty now-does not get that from me-I'm like Jc,fed up in 2 mins off to find trouble!!!!!!
05/11/2009 at 22:34
ah bless him, jacks will spend some days wanting me to lead and others being a loon not stopping for more than a moment to eat and hes off again, hell be fun in school!
He does, i think! lol he has 4 cousins on roos side theyre 6 4 1 and 7mnths and of course he has his sister who hell play with for ages! lolas the one whos trouble shes a bit rough with the smaller ones, no idea how to tackle that, we do; no, not nice, be gentle, move her away etc, she goes back and does it again!!! shes used to to many boys on my side!
Atleast toms happy though rach, and its not too long before you can leave the place!
05/11/2009 at 22:39
Aye that's true,and that's my only concern-his happiness.
Lil sod got up before and came downstairs to watch Everton v's Benfica!!!!!! Ah well don't have to rush in the morning-Jc snoring like a pig up there!!!!!
11/11/2009 at 14:42
Coffee morning today at playgroup-26 mums invited 5 of us there not good,she didn't hardly make any money. Shame,at least I went,I may hate the place but I have to show support as Tom loves it. Shame others cant be arsed really.
Had a right bargain there tho-2 years ago they were told by offsted(well welsh equivalant) they had to buy all in 1 rainsuits for outdoor play. Didn't work,loads of mums didn't want them going out in rain-feck knows why-mine love puddles and splashing in rain-anyway all cost £15 each-she was selling them today a fiver each!!!! Bargain-I got 2 lil Jc loves water too!!!!!!
Made up with my purchases!!!!! Also won the raffle-hardly a suprise only 2 of us bothered to buy tickets!!! Chocs and wine-gave them back for bingo prizes next week.
Gotta think of stuff to donate now. Maybe wine,soaps and stuff or perhaps biscuits????
Hope that's a better turn out than today no suprise the owners don't put much effort in if this is the response.
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