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29/06/2014 at 21:53
Just curious really... did anyone not have the whooping cough jab between 28 - 32 weeks pregnancy? I know midwife recommends it but read a mixture of ideas/opinions about how necessary and beneficial it actually is
29/06/2014 at 22:33
Il be having it, I'd rather have it than watch my newborn/baby under 3 months in hospital fighting whooping cough.
Can you show us the sources that discredit it?? Iv not heard any mixed reviews tbh and having had a colleague who's daughter developed whooping cough (before the vaccination in pregnancy was available) it would be interesting to read the arguments against tbh
29/06/2014 at 22:46
I'm on my phone now as I'm in bed but I read through the nhs website about it and all the comments posted under the article. Will find other link I read when back on my PC tomorrow. I've never questioned any vaccine etc before and I'm only questioning this one because I made mistake of googling it! It's so untested and just worried me after reading some of the comments on there from ladies who've had it :/
29/06/2014 at 22:55
I'm with TRF, I simply wouldn't risk it.
29/06/2014 at 23:04
I've only heard about the jab recently on here (I assume that my midwife would tell me at my 28 weeks appointment) but yes I'm going to book it, I haven't read anything to suggest I shouldn't. Not worth the risk. Will get the flu jab too if offered it
30/06/2014 at 04:31
O I thought you meant actual medical articles had discredited it, not just comments on a website. No il absolutely be having it. Whooping cough is on the increase and I'm just not prepared to risk it
30/06/2014 at 06:56
30/06/2014 at 07:46
Working hard - The vaccine leaflet itself states that its not suitable in pregnancy as it is a combined vaccine and not tested in pregnant women. NHS website says they believe it to be safe as its similar to one given in America but that there is no official research either way.
30/06/2014 at 08:04
The HPA makes no mention if risks but il try to look for data later,
Here's the nhs website, if you scroll down to the bit where it says is the vaccine safe to use in pregnancy then it says it is.
Il try to access MHRA later too as there should be stats etc. the comments on the nhs article are from joe public there's no medical evidence. When I have time il try to access the sites I mentioned
30/06/2014 at 08:06
This is one medical website I read.www.medicines.org.uk/.../spc the others were peoples own stories/reports rather than medical ones as everywhere official just states its untested in pregnancy and not recommended. Read several reports of premature labour and stillbirths after having it which is what is mostly freaking me out.
Please dont get me wrong I'm not some anti-vaccine person or saying I'm not having it I just wanted a more rounded view and to see if anyone chose not too based on the info available.
The vaccine hasn't been given to pregnant women for very long (iirc since 2012 in uk and longer in usa) so there's not much research out there and trials in pregnancy aren't carried out for ethical reasons, so most if not all medication says not suitable in pregnancy. The vaccine isn't just for whooping cough though, its also for polio diptheria and tetanus and tbh i do question the safety of having this while pregnant just as there isn't enough information out there about it either way. If you look at the statistics since 2012 whooping cough cases have declined, but is that because of the vaccine? There is stuff on google about women having it and then suffering pregnancy losses following but that could be purely coincidental, its anecdotal not based on evidence, but still very off putting to read and enough to put some off having the vaccine imo.i think if you do your reading, have a look at whooping cough statistics in your area and then can make an informed decision to have or not have it.x
30/06/2014 at 08:42
Exactly wRFs....it's a no brainer if it protects my LO from whooping cough until their jabs. Having seen babies suffering in hospital with it when we had to take O to A&E as a baby leaving it is not a chance I'd be willing to take. There is always scaremongering about jabs (MMR etc) but in reality the benefits far outweigh any risks
30/06/2014 at 08:51
See, I refused the flu jab (and have also always refused it for work as well) since it's a "best guess" vaccine. I.e. "well if we're right and strain X of flu happens and you are exposed to it, you won't get it, but if we're wrong and it's a different strain then you will, and it won't stop you catching any mutated versions either". Whereas the whooping cough is a "have this and you and your baby are protected against 3 nasty diseases". I was told (not sure how true it is) that it's the same vaccine the babies get when they are 8-9 weeks, and since it doesn't harm them then, and consequences of not having it could be bad, I decided to accept.
30/06/2014 at 09:23
30/06/2014 at 09:55
I had the whooping cough vaccine as its the same one given to the baby at their first jabs. Nothing has been tested on pregnant women so they always warn you can't have it (paracetamol also warns this) but there are a lot of vaccines you can not go near in pregnancy and they will not offer you them so the fact they offered it me is enough for me!
Just to let you know i don't think its the same vaccine that 8 week olds get - this is from the health protection agency website:
What vaccine is recommended for this programme and why?
Repevax® (containing diphtheria (low dose), tetanus, acellular pertussis and inactivated polio antigens – dTaP/IPV) is the recommended vaccine for this programme. This vaccine is licensed as a booster from 3 years of age and contains low dose diphtheria suitable for adults.
so its the same as the booster, not the first vaccines babies get.
30/06/2014 at 10:43
30/06/2014 at 10:52
That's what they have a 8 weeks but as seperate immunisations isn't it?
30/06/2014 at 10:56
the HPA do give reasoning for the drop in cases that it could be down to the vaccine however it can also be down to seasonal changes as theres usually a reduction at certain points in the year and they do still advise to have it
heres some questions and answers from the HPA
this is quite good but very long, section 2.6 explains that the DOH advise the vaccine, it is not tested on pregnant women as no medication is tested on pregnant women and in the majority of medication info leaflets it will say not to be taken in pregnancy, codiene is not advised unless you speak to a dr and there are plenty of women on that.
30/06/2014 at 10:58
Nhs says this about the repevax vaccination which is what is given to pregnant women:
Why is Repevax the recommended vaccine?
Repevax is the recommended vaccine because it's already licensed as a booster following primary immunisation - as required in pregnant women. Unlike whooping cough vaccines given to babies in the childhood vaccination programme, Repevax does not contain a Hib (Haemophilus influenzae type b) component and has lower levels of diphtheria and tetanus.
so my understanding is its not the same one given to babies?
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